Re:Boeing Finds More Misdrilled Holes on 737 in Latest Setback
by hinkley on Monday February 05, 2024 @12:03PM
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Move headquarters back to Puget Sound. It’s the only way.
Re:Boeing Finds More Misdrilled Holes on 737 in Latest Setback
by AaronM on Monday February 05, 2024 @02:35PM
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I think the MD merge gets the blame by many, however, it seems as though the shift in the market that started around the same time to optimize shareholder value at all costs is really to blame.
Re:Boeing Finds More Misdrilled Holes on 737 in Latest Setback
by kelnos on Monday February 05, 2024 @04:23PM
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I think it's both in a sort of chicken and egg sort of situation. The MD execs taking over Boeing had a terrible effect on safety culture, but the reason the MD execs took over in the first place was because of this shift in the market that you describe.
If the pre-MD Boeing management had managed to retain control of the company things may have been ok from a quality and safety perspective... but the stock would have declined because they would have refused to chase short-term quarterly success at the expense of the long term.
Re:Boeing Finds More Misdrilled Holes on 737 in Latest Setback
by p_l on Wednesday February 07, 2024 @09:13PM
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Phil Condit was a Boeing engineering lifer who spearheaded the first steps that led to things described as "MD takeover".
And was still in charge of 7E7 (today's Dreamliner) when the excessive outsourcing and cost targets began.
Re:Boeing Finds More Misdrilled Holes on 737 in Latest Setback
by AdrianB1 on Monday February 05, 2024 @02:54PM
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The senior leadership does not lack the self awareness, they know exactly that they are bad and they act to cover it as best as possible. I saw this up close in other similar companies (manufacturing moved to all non-technical leadership).
I'd argue they need an effective engineering culture, and leadership that enables and values and fights for it, not a former-engineer figurehead. Good engineers within Boeing need to be enabled to do their job properly, within normal business constraints, and bad engineers need to be removed. The business needs to understand that good engineering is a necessity and a profit centre in aerospace.
I don't know how they'd achieve this change. The company seems to have rotted from the head down since it merged with McDonnel Douglas, and its possible that the senior leadership lack the self awareness to comprehend the problem.