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Re:Netflix: Piracy is difficult to compete against and growi... by mdavidn on Sunday February 04, 2024 @11:41PM (#39257424)
"Stole" isn't the right word either. Pirating does not deprive any legal entity of ownership. It's merely copyright infringement. It also likely circumvented access controls, thereby running afoul of DMCA. But it is not theft.

I'm speaking as someone who also never pirates. I'd rather not watch something and spend my time doing something else.

Re:Netflix: Piracy is difficult to compete against and growi... by Daz1 on Monday February 05, 2024 @02:39AM (#39258348)
It is absolutely theft, nobody is falling for that semantics argument - you're depriving a rights holder of revenue that they would otherwise gained.
Re:Netflix: Piracy is difficult to compete against and growi... by vonjuice on Monday February 05, 2024 @03:07AM (#39258498)
My pockets are absolutely overflowing with revenue big corpo would otherwise have gained, it's ruining my pants!

Do you know where I could stash all this revenue big corpo would otherwise have gained? Or perhaps I could give it to you? Would you be interested in giving me something in exchange for all this revenue big daddy corpo would otherwise have gained?

Re:Netflix: Piracy is difficult to compete against and growi... by DarkUranium on Tuesday February 06, 2024 @09:16AM (#39274359)
Reminds me of the Napster case, where the damages were calculated as higher as the gross world product at the time because of the "1 pirated copy = 1 lost sale" philosophy.

Implying that music companies would have been richer than all the nations + other companies in the world combined, if it wasn't for music piracy. It's not hard to see how that's bull.

Re:Netflix: Piracy is difficult to compete against and growi... by realusername on Monday February 05, 2024 @02:51AM (#39258413)
> you're depriving a rights holder of revenue that they would otherwise gained.

There's never been a single proof of a loss of revenue during research.

So no, while it's usually a talking point on the anti-piracy ads, it's an urban legend.

Re:Netflix: Piracy is difficult to compete against and growi... by worksonmine on Monday February 05, 2024 @11:01AM (#39262572)
If I wasn't pirating I would most likely have at least one service.

I'm stealing just as much as I would be stealing if I took code from a developer without paying what we agreed to. The entire stealing/not stealing discussion is just useless semantics.

Re:Netflix: Piracy is difficult to compete against and growi... by scaryclam on Tuesday February 06, 2024 @12:29PM (#39277422)
The inverse has also been suggested over the years: people who pirated at some point are more likely to pay for content now, whether or not they continue to pirate content
Re:Netflix: Piracy is difficult to compete against and growi... by cvalka on Monday February 05, 2024 @04:25AM (#39259078)
No, it's absolutely not theft and courts agree.
Re:Netflix: Piracy is difficult to compete against and growi... by DarkUranium on Tuesday February 06, 2024 @09:09AM (#39274308)
Also, making a backup copy of something you own is usually piracy[1]. In what universe is that theft?

[1] The act of making a backup is not in and of itself (as it's considered a fair use/exception in most [not all!] jurisdictions, even outside of US), but it often involves circumventing DRM, and that part is piracy.

Re:Netflix: Piracy is difficult to compete against and growi... by t0bia_s on Monday February 05, 2024 @11:28AM (#39262985)
"If buying isn't owning, piracy isn't stealing"

https://pluralistic.net/2023/12/08/playstationed/#tyler-jame...