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Re:Want good programmers? Then pay them. by kamaal on Thursday May 03, 2012 @02:02PM (#3924955)
Exactly, One more thing that I didn't like about it was the feeling that its OK for the employer to overwork you and then not compensate it, under the pretext of 'interesting work'.

This is an old plan used by most companies.

I like doing what I do, but I would love to something else if I had the money to free me up.

For most people, their area of least incompetence becomes their passion.

Re:Want good programmers? Then pay them. by skerrit_bwoy on Thursday May 03, 2012 @02:24PM (#3925052)
I'll add that if you LOVE doing what you do for 40 years, straight through retirement, you are one odd duck indeed. The idea of "passion for work" is a power play to get folks to put in more for less. Don't get it twisted.

Furthermore, workaholism is for people who don't understand what it means to be human. Steve Jobs was a sucker - almost as much as his followers who didn't realize that he was.

Re:Want good programmers? Then pay them. by soup10 on Friday May 04, 2012 @02:47AM (#3927382)
Steve Jobs was a sucker because his values were different than yours? Really?
Re:Want good programmers? Then pay them. by loup-vaillant on Friday May 04, 2012 @04:00AM (#3927517)
No. But he probably was a sucker for imagining that everyone was (or should be) as passionate as he was. That's a very common flaw among passionate bosses: they forget that many employees don't enjoy their jobs as much as they do.
Re:Want good programmers? Then pay them. by arien on Friday May 04, 2012 @09:56AM (#3928348)
One reason they may not enjoy as much is because being a simple employee following orders it's often not as exciting as being the boss and calling the shots.

I mean, both can be very exciting, but I'm sure they're at very different levels.

Re:Want good programmers? Then pay them. by bjornsing on Thursday May 03, 2012 @07:56PM (#3926378)
> Steve Jobs was a sucker

That's really respectful, yea.

(irony alert)

Re:Want good programmers? Then pay them. by its_so_on on Thursday May 03, 2012 @02:21PM (#3925041)
The plan is a lot older than you think. For millennia, people have married above their station by being interesting.