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Re:A Relevant Tale: How Google Killed Inktomi by gruseom on Thursday May 03, 2012 @01:22PM (#3924769)
I remember why I switched to Google: 1. speed, 2. simplicity. Relevance, meh. Never noticed much difference there. This led me to believe that PageRank was more about marketing (brilliant marketing) than technical edge.
Re:A Relevant Tale: How Google Killed Inktomi by mcguire on Thursday May 03, 2012 @02:09PM (#3924996)
Are you kidding? I was using Altavista, IIRC, and would routinely have to page down to the second or third page to find any kind of relevant link. When I switched to Google, I almost immediately stopped looking at more than the first page of results.
Re:A Relevant Tale: How Google Killed Inktomi by gaius on Thursday May 03, 2012 @03:29PM (#3925339)
There was nothing wrong with Altavista's algorithm for "finding stuff" - it was just too vulnerable to SEO pollution. I remember the quality of it declining almost overnight once spammers (yes that's what SEOs are) figured it out.
Re:A Relevant Tale: How Google Killed Inktomi by gscott on Thursday May 03, 2012 @02:55PM (#3925191)
I always found the best results on InfoSeek and then they were bought out and went away there was no choice but to use Google.
Re:A Relevant Tale: How Google Killed Inktomi by radicalbyte on Thursday May 03, 2012 @01:36PM (#3924834)
It wasn't even results.

Back in the day you could be on the second page of Google search results before Excite or Altavista had even loaded.

Yahoo wasn't much faster.

Re:A Relevant Tale: How Google Killed Inktomi by cpeterso on Thursday May 03, 2012 @02:09PM (#3924992)
I think Google's high quality search results were less due to PageRank than the fact they AND'd search terms instead of OR'ing them.
Re:A Relevant Tale: How Google Killed Inktomi by beagle3 on Thursday May 03, 2012 @02:31PM (#3925089)
PageRank was of paramount importance back then. At the time, AltaVista/Inktomi were easy to spam, and Google wasn't.

The google spam that actually works (or at least, worked a few years ago, before panda) requires setting up lots of sites, lots of independent IP blocks. That was much harder when PageRank appeared - hosting was damn expensive, VPSes were nowhere to be found.

PageRank was a huge thing. I used "and" queries in altavista at the time. It was no match.

Re:A Relevant Tale: How Google Killed Inktomi by michh on Thursday May 03, 2012 @01:32PM (#3924822)
Initially the no. 1 reason for me was peer pressure. It was simply unacceptable to use something other than Google in tech circles at some point. It was like having an @aol.com email address.

If your users are that passionate, you're doing something right.

After I gave it a go for a while, the other reasons you list made me stay.

Re:A Relevant Tale: How Google Killed Inktomi by wickedchicken on Thursday May 03, 2012 @02:04PM (#3924968)
> It was simply unacceptable to use something other than Google in tech circles at some point.

From what I recall, it was also the most programmer-friendly search engine at the time.

http://www.bing.com/search?q=DGGEVX

http://blekko.com/ws/DGGEVX

http://duckduckgo.com/?q=DGGEVX

http://www.google.com/#q=DGGEVX

This is purely subjective, but Google is the only one that links to the Netlib 'real' LAPACK, straight to the file/documentation in question. The others have mixtures of Java packages and other examples...

Re:A Relevant Tale: How Google Killed Inktomi by boyter on Friday May 04, 2012 @09:07AM (#3928184)
Offtopic, but do you consider these results any good?

http://searchco.de/?q=DGGEVX&cs=on

Re:A Relevant Tale: How Google Killed Inktomi by wickedchicken on Friday May 04, 2012 @12:18PM (#3929071)
Basically, but you're getting the opinion of a random person on the internet :). The third result is the 'real' one (the top two are unit tests for the named function.
Re:A Relevant Tale: How Google Killed Inktomi by boyter on Friday May 04, 2012 @06:39PM (#3930647)
That's fine, its who I am targeting!

I was more curious to see if it was even in the ballpark. The relevance i'm not too worried about if the expected response is in the top 3.

Thanks!