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Re:Joe Rogan Gets New Spotify Deal Worth Up to $250M by ethbr1 on Friday February 02, 2024 @04:13PM (#39234481)
Agreed. It's like Amazon Video's slide towards being an advertising supported cable company.

No company owes anybody being a company of a specific sort.

And it's a nigh impossible battle to argue in favor of an order of magnitude less profitable business model if there are more profitable alternatives.

One reason I always said Apple's lock on the App Store was a few down quarters from being seriously abused to the detriment of users.

Re:Joe Rogan Gets New Spotify Deal Worth Up to $250M by Voultapher on Friday February 02, 2024 @04:22PM (#39234591)
I think Cory Doctorow put it aptly:

> Corporations run on a form of code – financial regulation and accounting practices – and the modern version of this code literally prohibits corporations from treating human beings with empathy. The principle of fiduciary duty to inves­tors means that where there is a chance to make an investor richer while making a worker or customer miserable, management is obliged to side with the investor, so long as the misery doesn’t backfire so much that it harms the investor’s quarterly return.

Source https://locusmag.com/2015/07/cory-doctorow-skynet-ascendant/

Re:Joe Rogan Gets New Spotify Deal Worth Up to $250M by gregwebs on Friday February 02, 2024 @05:57PM (#39235596)
That’s not the full story. Corporations have charters that include things other than a return for investors. Investors also don’t care about maximizing returns as long as expected targets can be hit.
Re:Joe Rogan Gets New Spotify Deal Worth Up to $250M by Voultapher on Saturday February 03, 2024 @03:40AM (#39238579)
Can you point me to substantial evidence that corporations side with their customers or employees when doing so is in conflict with their bottom line?

I can point to examples that validate my point.

1. Facebook: https://apnews.com/article/facebook-whistleblower-frances-ha...

2. Apple: https://www.ifixit.com/News/82493/we-are-retroactively-dropp...

3. Youtube: adding more and more advertisements to each video even after they became profitable

4. Purdue Pharma and Pharma in general: The opioid crisis in the US

5. Volkswagen: Dieselgate

I can list many more, but I think you see a pattern.