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Re:Payroll employment rises by 353K in January; unemployment... by jfengel on Friday February 02, 2024 @09:22AM (#39228775)
Inflation has been falling for a while. It's down to 3.4% -- higher than the 2% target, but well below the peak. The Fed is even considering cutting interest rates, which says that they think that inflation is under control.

The recent bout of inflation is less about monetary policy than about the supply side, especially things like COVID and Ukraine causing supply disruptions. Those things have levelled out and begun to decrease.

Re:Payroll employment rises by 353K in January; unemployment... by no_wizard on Friday February 02, 2024 @09:26AM (#39228824)
Housing costs haven't dropped enough IMO to declare a win.

I think its become clear that its a government problem, because if it was just a market problem, supply / demand would have leveled out by now.

Re:Payroll employment rises by 353K in January; unemployment... by ethanbond on Friday February 02, 2024 @09:36AM (#39228956)
Why would it have leveled out? Just article of faith about The Market?

Go talk to a builder. Land is ridiculously expensive due to speculation and labor is impossible to find due to it being a generally shitty job.

Re:Payroll employment rises by 353K in January; unemployment... by sgerenser on Friday February 02, 2024 @10:16AM (#39229521)
It’s a supply and demand problem, but it’ll take years to play out. Too many people are locked into 30-year mortgages with 26-28 years left at 2-3% interest. They’ll basically never sell (barring a major issue like having to move for a job after layoff or a divorce). So the supply of housing is much lower than normal all across the country. In some areas new construction can pick up some of that slack, but new construction is just getting into swing after a huge drop early in the pandemic.
Re:Payroll employment rises by 353K in January; unemployment... by runako on Friday February 02, 2024 @10:06AM (#39229396)
> Housing costs haven't dropped enough IMO to declare a win.

This is a fundamental misunderstanding about inflation. If inflation goes to 0%, housing costs will stay exactly where they are now. You are looking for a deflation in housing costs, where inflation is < 0%. We had that in 2008 and it caused...collateral damage.

The only real way to lower housing prices is to build a lot more housing. So yes, it's a government problem in that we don't let private actors build housing to meet the market's demand.

Re:Payroll employment rises by 353K in January; unemployment... by SkyPuncher on Friday February 02, 2024 @09:30AM (#39228885)
Why would the market have leveled out by now?

It takes years to build any substantial housing.

Re:Payroll employment rises by 353K in January; unemployment... by gottorf on Friday February 02, 2024 @09:36AM (#39228951)
> The recent bout of inflation is less about monetary policy than about the supply side

The fiscal side[0] is probably more to blame than the supply-chain restrictions. Aggregate demand was kept turbocharged since Covid through deficit spending. And given that the CPI is still 19.1% higher as of last reading compared to pre-pandemic times, whether or not the rate of change is falling, people are still rightly feeling squeezed.

[0]: https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/FYFSD

Re:Payroll employment rises by 353K in January; unemployment... by iamtheworstdev on Friday February 02, 2024 @09:50AM (#39229168)
The fed is considering dropping interest rates because the commercial real estate market is absolutely effed if they don't and they "need" to protect banks and the wealthy.

WSJ article on the pending "Doom Loop" https://archive.is/MOzr9

Re:Payroll employment rises by 353K in January; unemployment... by itsoktocry on Friday February 02, 2024 @09:44AM (#39229086)
>The Fed is even considering cutting interest rates

What does this even mean, practically speaking? Their entire purpose is to always be considering lowering, maintaining or raising rates.