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Re:Everybody has to self-promote now. Nobody wants to by goles on Thursday February 01, 2024 @07:13PM (#39223345)
Surprised at the lack of discussion in the article around Patreon. Some of the points around the need to self-promote for artist are valid. But the popularity of funding individual(s) to produce niche content is now surprisingly mainstream.

The quote . . ." a loose collection of YouTubers and influencers who feed slop to their younger audiences." particularly sneering. There are many successful Youtube channels that produce long form quality content, but this probably applies to a lot of TikTok(?).

Anecdote - Discovered my parents, who are older, but not technologically inept, both have favorite youtube channels, Premium, and support their patreons. Which I thought was only something those of the internet generation would do.

Re:Everybody has to self-promote now. Nobody wants to by robertlagrant on Thursday February 01, 2024 @07:20PM (#39223396)
I agree - YouTube has been an incredible driver of bottom-up content, mostly unrestrained by the traditional gatekeepers. The article doesn't seem to be much of anything. A simplistic view of the past compared to a simplistic view of the present.
Re:Everybody has to self-promote now. Nobody wants to by TillE on Thursday February 01, 2024 @10:19PM (#39224579)
Patreon has been amazing for niche creators, it's way bigger than I thought it would be. There's a long tail of podcasts and YouTubers with 1000+ supporters, which is a respectable steady income for one person, or a great side gig for two or three.
Re:Everybody has to self-promote now. Nobody wants to by troad on Thursday February 01, 2024 @11:06PM (#39224884)
> Surprised at the lack of discussion in the article around Patreon.

Traditional journalism very much has a chip on its shoulder about the success of “new media”, for obvious reasons. (How many writers at traditional outlets are pumping out copy at or below minimum wage? How do they feel looking at a successful Patreon for an independent journalist?)