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Re:YouTube Says It Has More Than 100M Premium and Music Subs... by wdfx on Thursday February 01, 2024 @02:37PM (#39220216)
Nothing is free. If you enjoy the hard worked output of musicians then you really should contribute something back to the system which supports them and allows the delivery of their creativity to your ears.
Re:YouTube Says It Has More Than 100M Premium and Music Subs... by bdcravens on Thursday February 01, 2024 @03:31PM (#39221004)
Youtube pays 2/10th of a penny (on average) per stream to artists (and most platforms pay more)

https://virpp.com/hello/music-streaming-payouts-comparison-a...

Re:YouTube Says It Has More Than 100M Premium and Music Subs... by wdfx on Thursday February 01, 2024 @03:34PM (#39221058)
I expected this reply and it's good to debate the fairness of platforms towards artists, but I don't really want to get into that.

My point is that if you're freeloading music then the artist gets precisely 0.00 which is less even than the worst platform.

Re:YouTube Says It Has More Than 100M Premium and Music Subs... by Symbiote on Thursday February 01, 2024 @03:50PM (#39221263)
It's a pitiful amount.

I listened to 7000 tracks last year (I think that's well above average), so if that had been on YouTube it would have given $14 to the artists.

People used to spend more on music, even if they only bought a couple of CDs a year.

Re:YouTube Says It Has More Than 100M Premium and Music Subs... by bdcravens on Thursday February 01, 2024 @03:45PM (#39221193)
I would have to do more research to confirm, but I believe the platforms pay the artist for all streams, not just premium ones. In that case, you’re only stealing from the platform.
Re:YouTube Says It Has More Than 100M Premium and Music Subs... by wdfx on Thursday February 01, 2024 @03:53PM (#39221303)
Again to clarify I'm also referring to the listener who uses some means to download the content locally to consume and therefore doesn't rely on any platform to use the content.
Re:YouTube Says It Has More Than 100M Premium and Music Subs... by bdcravens on Thursday February 01, 2024 @04:17PM (#39221596)
Ok, much of the conversation in this thread revolves around accessing streaming services via adblockers rather than downloading files.
Re:YouTube Says It Has More Than 100M Premium and Music Subs... by wdfx on Thursday February 01, 2024 @04:25PM (#39221677)
Fair. To be honest I'm only half paying attention here sitting in the pub doing open mic
Re:YouTube Says It Has More Than 100M Premium and Music Subs... by skeaker on Thursday February 01, 2024 @04:07PM (#39221478)
Is that for streams to free users or premium ones?
Re:YouTube Says It Has More Than 100M Premium and Music Subs... by bdcravens on Thursday February 01, 2024 @04:20PM (#39221626)
That's unclear. Playing any recorded music typically requires a license fee to be paid even when it's "free" to the listener (for instance, the radio or a public venue)

Spotify pays based on payments from Premium users, as well as ad revenue. I presume others have similar arrangements.

https://support.spotify.com/us/artists/article/royalties/

Re:YouTube Says It Has More Than 100M Premium and Music Subs... by whatshisface on Thursday February 01, 2024 @03:08PM (#39220674)
A good way to do that is through donations.
Re:YouTube Says It Has More Than 100M Premium and Music Subs... by bobsmith432 on Thursday February 01, 2024 @03:20PM (#39220861)
How do you donate to a 80's hair metal band?
Re:YouTube Says It Has More Than 100M Premium and Music Subs... by whatshisface on Thursday February 01, 2024 @03:44PM (#39221184)
If someone isn't around to collect the proceeds of their work anymore, it should go into the public domain.
Re:YouTube Says It Has More Than 100M Premium and Music Subs... by ijhuygft776 on Thursday February 01, 2024 @03:21PM (#39220884)
I guess it's not free, I use electricity, electronics, etc...