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Re:Artificial Intelligence and Peace by ugleer on Thursday February 01, 2024 @02:57PM (#39220486)
Well, part of the argument is defining of “baby”.

But the Bible is clearer on this than all Christian orgs.

Life starts at first breath according to Genesis 2:7.

“And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and man became a living being.”

And numbers 5 that has a recipe for a potion that will allegedly identify an adulterous woman and cause her to abort.

“27And when he hath made her to drink the water, then it shall come to pass, that, if she be defiled, and have done trespass against her husband, that the water that causeth the curse shall enter into her, and become bitter, and her belly shall swell, and her thigh shall rot: and the woman shall be a curse among her people. 28And if the woman be not defiled, but be clean; then she shall be free, and shall conceive seed.“

Re:Artificial Intelligence and Peace by svieira on Thursday February 01, 2024 @03:32PM (#39221028)
Sed contra ruah (breath) meaning that people are not of concern to God before they take their first breath - "Before I formed you in the womb I knew you" (Jeremiah 1:5). So even if people were not people before they were born, God cares about them before they are people. But then we have "Who am I that the mother of my Lord should come to me?" (Luke 1:43), said to a pregnant Mary by St. Elizabeth. If Christ is fully man and Mary is already "the mother of God" when she holds Christ in her womb then people are people before they are born. So we must be misunderstanding something about what Genesis 2:7 means.

As for drinking dirty water from the floor of the temple (literally, sweep up some dust and put it in a cup with water - not an abortifacient) - the trial is asking God to reveal the truth or falsity of the woman's claim that she is virtuous (much in the same way as asking someone to take an oath in court - the bad outcome in both cases is falling under the judgement of God and receiving in some measure justice for the offense of blaspheming by asking God to witness to your lie before men).

Re:Artificial Intelligence and Peace by ugleer on Thursday February 01, 2024 @04:01PM (#39221408)
“Their languages just serve to confuse them Their confusion somehow makes them more sure”

Pure comedy.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=wKrSYgirAhc

Re:Artificial Intelligence and Peace by monkeynotes on Thursday February 01, 2024 @02:39PM (#39220253)
That's the delusional logic they justify misery with, yes.