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Re:Ask HN: Are you seeing AI used in places where it shouldn... by duffpkg on Wednesday January 31, 2024 @09:48PM (#39212268)
Doctors are using it inappropriately to diagnose and advise treatment on their phones without telling patients. It is being rolled out in all manner of automated classification, huge amounts of behind the scenes healthcare involves manual review of charts for classification purposes that is associated with various streams of funding. Low level employees are turning to general purpose AI to assist with this, leaking data, not understanding how unreliable these tools can be for this. Billing departments are "secretly" using it to "refine" coding. Pretty much all of the dumb irresponsible things you can think of.
Re:Ask HN: Are you seeing AI used in places where it shouldn... by devbytes on Wednesday January 31, 2024 @11:27PM (#39212713)
Ingesting visit notes and having an LLM help determine what billing codes to use seems like a great use of AI in my opinion.
Re:Ask HN: Are you seeing AI used in places where it shouldn... by spcebar on Thursday February 01, 2024 @12:13AM (#39212908)
Billing codes are complicated and the rules behind them change frequently. These seem like a case where AI could present a wrong answer with authority—probably a close to correct answer, but one that could cost a patient or practice.
Re:Ask HN: Are you seeing AI used in places where it shouldn... by devbytes on Monday February 05, 2024 @11:21PM (#39270759)
I'm not saying it should go without human intervention. It could do a great job at selecting the most likely codes and displaying them to the biller.
Re:Ask HN: Are you seeing AI used in places where it shouldn... by jklein11 on Wednesday January 31, 2024 @10:15PM (#39212393)
> Billing departments are "secretly" using it to "refine" coding. What does this mean exactly?
Re:Ask HN: Are you seeing AI used in places where it shouldn... by devbytes on Wednesday January 31, 2024 @11:23PM (#39212692)
When billing any insurance company, all procedures are assigned a "code" to standardize the payment/procedure performed across systems.

Some doctor patient visits may fall under multiple codes, so billers will optimize for the highest paying code.

Re:Ask HN: Are you seeing AI used in places where it shouldn... by bespokedevelopr on Thursday February 01, 2024 @01:11AM (#39213178)
I work in an ED and I see doctors and nurses looking things up on Google and yt daily. Medications and doses are the most common thing I see. It’s not much different than how developers or mechanics diagnose a problem.

One instance I observed all the ED providers huddled around a screen watching a yt video for a pediatric patient, we are not a children’s hospital. They all watched then discussed the video before going back out to the pt.

I’m sure there should be better documentation available but so much of their jobs is judgement based already.

Medical specific trained LLMs are likely to be commonplace in near future for providers based on feedback I’ve gathered.