Re:What the world can learn from Copenhagen's cycling revolu...
by eesmith on Thursday February 01, 2024 @12:56AM
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I think the mentioned report is "Transport transitions in Copenhagen: Comparing the cost of cars and bicycles" at https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S092180091...
Along these lines, in a less scholarly form:
"Cost-benefit of cycling infrastructure" - https://cyclingsolutions.info/cost-benefit-of-cycling-infras...
"Making the Economic Case for Cycling" - https://www.itdp.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/CC_MAKING-TH...
A related paper is "The social cost of automobility, cycling and walking in the European Union", https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S09218...
That paper has a YouTube version on the CityNerd channel, "Cars Are A Disaster For Society -- Here Are the Numbers " https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qp75-46PnMY
Re:What the world can learn from Copenhagen's cycling revolu...
by vba616 on Saturday February 03, 2024 @07:05PM
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Thank you for all those links. I trust you that they support the "€1 / km" figure.
Re:What the world can learn from Copenhagen's cycling revolu...
by eesmith on Sunday February 04, 2024 @02:29PM
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If you don't bother to make even a quick scan then I question your earlier statement that you "would like to understand what this means".
Re:What the world can learn from Copenhagen's cycling revolu...
by vba616 on Sunday February 04, 2024 @06:06PM
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You misunderstood my comment, if you think I was asking for a reference for 1 euro/km.
The question is whether 20 euros per liter is obviously looney tunes to any HN passers-by. Or if "everyone" knows it is in fact what gasoline should cost.
[Edited for clarity]
Re:What the world can learn from Copenhagen's cycling revolu...
by eesmith on Monday February 05, 2024 @03:48AM
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It's obviously looney tunes because many of the overall costs - insurance, noise pollution, car depreciation, the societal cost of road building and maintenance, etc. - also apply to electric vehicles.
I would like to understand what this means.
I don't have any idea if it's accurate or not but the implications make me think it requires some explanation.
If the true cost of travel by car is about one euro (currently $1.08?) per km, then - using ~4.7L / 100 km mileage of my car - by my arithmetic gas should cost on the order of 20 euros per liter to internalize the costs to society.
Some very brief research indicates to me that Danes price gas in DKK, but converted it's around 2 euros a liter.
So is Danish gas underpriced by as much as 10 times?