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Re:Senator Wyden Letter Confirms NSA Is Buying US Persons' D... by staplers on Tuesday January 30, 2024 @06:55PM (#39197751)

  Under the Third Party Doctrine, they aren't searching and seizing your property in this case, as your data is no longer your property since you gave it to that third party already.
If you have a child in public education, you are forced to use third party tools to communicate, acquire class photos, enroll in sports, etc.

Nothing with data collection is "voluntary". To exist in our society there are so many "private institutions" that essentially wield governmental power.

It will absolutely be our undoing as a country that we cannot see the forest from the trees.

Re:Senator Wyden Letter Confirms NSA Is Buying US Persons' D... by bpt3 on Wednesday January 31, 2024 @11:38AM (#39205837)
> If you have a child in public education, you are forced to use third party tools to communicate, acquire class photos, enroll in sports, etc.

No, you aren't (at least in my area), but even if you are that's not the government's problem.

> Nothing with data collection is "voluntary". To exist in our society there are so many "private institutions" that essentially wield governmental power.

It is "voluntary". The quotes are there for a reason because it can be highly inconvenient not to "volunteer", but it is possible (at a cost in most cases).

> It will absolutely be our undoing as a country that we cannot see the forest from the trees.

Third party data access will not be our undoing.

For one, it's not that serious of an issue, and we can ultimately change the law if enough people feel strongly enough about it.

Re:Senator Wyden Letter Confirms NSA Is Buying US Persons' D... by staplers on Wednesday January 31, 2024 @12:38PM (#39206783)

  it can be highly inconvenient not to "volunteer"
I guarantee you don't have a child in public education.