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Re:Ryzen 8000G review: An integrated GPU that can beat a gra... by FirmwareBurner on Tuesday January 30, 2024 @11:41AM (#39192212)
>And not every desktop PC has to be a gaming capable machine.

Yes, but desktop PCs not for gaming aren't really selling volumes nowadays, they're a tiny niche being eaten by notebooks and NUCs (also a niche) which Intel has been dominating as they had CPUs with iGPUs (basically APUs without the marketing) since ... forever.

>Power-savings will probably be even more relevant for organizations running hundreds of office machines and terminals.

When was the last time you saw organizations buy PCs for their workforce? In volume I mean, not just one PC for Bob who needed a CAD workstation, because then Bob most likely isn't getting an APU for CAD but some workstation with discrete CPU and some Quadro GPU.

Organizations mostly transitioned their office machines to notebooks a long time ago, even moreso after WFH became more popular so there was less need of PCs tied to a fixed location. PCs not for gaming or heavy compute workstations aren't big sellers anymore.

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Re:Ryzen 8000G review: An integrated GPU that can beat a gra... by jijijijij on Tuesday January 30, 2024 @11:54AM (#39192410)
In my experience, bureaucracy doesn't run on laptops.
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Re:Ryzen 8000G review: An integrated GPU that can beat a gra... by FirmwareBurner on Tuesday January 30, 2024 @11:55AM (#39192435)
On what does it run on?

Yeah, I'm sure governments do buy some amount of desktop PCs because they don't intend for their workforce to work from anywhere else other than a specific office, but you also can't tell me with a straight face that selling PCs to the DMV, FBI and other bureaucrats represents a big lucrative market that was waiting for the APU revolution.

PCs are a low selling niche now. APUs won't move the needle on that, that's why AMD ignored it for so long. End of story.

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Re:Ryzen 8000G review: An integrated GPU that can beat a gra... by jijijijij on Tuesday January 30, 2024 @12:01PM (#39192532)
I think you are moving the goal post a bit.
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Re:Ryzen 8000G review: An integrated GPU that can beat a gra... by FirmwareBurner on Tuesday January 30, 2024 @12:08PM (#39192635)
How so? Please enlighten us with your arguments on the matter.
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Re:Ryzen 8000G review: An integrated GPU that can beat a gra... by jijijijij on Tuesday January 30, 2024 @12:15PM (#39192760)
Well for starters the argument wasn't about economics, but who would value a power efficient processor like this.

Scroll up, enlighten yourself.

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Re:Ryzen 8000G review: An integrated GPU that can beat a gra... by FirmwareBurner on Tuesday January 30, 2024 @12:39PM (#39193081)
Economics matter. People can value a lot of things, but if there's too few of them, then the market won't bother catering to them. See small smartphones.
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Re:Ryzen 8000G review: An integrated GPU that can beat a gra... by jijijijij on Tuesday January 30, 2024 @01:15PM (#39193571)
Sure, but maybe this objection to the original argument shouldn't come as a moving goal post, don't you think?

Cause moving goal posts are lame and exhausting. End of story.

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Re:Ryzen 8000G review: An integrated GPU that can beat a gra... by pie420 on Tuesday January 30, 2024 @04:43PM (#39196285)
they 100% do. what company or government agency have you ever seen running on desktops that isnt the DMV?
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