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Re:Ryzen 8000G review: An integrated GPU that can beat a gra... by viraptor on Tuesday January 30, 2024 @05:30AM (#39188464)
> But when integrated graphics push forward, it can open up possibilities for people who want to play games but can only afford a cheap desktop

Or those who play on recent handhelds. Steamdeck with integrated RDNA2 is very capable with even modern games. Sure, you can't crank it up to ultimate quality with hundreds of fps - but it's enough, and above the "cheap" level of performance.

Also, looking at geekbench results, it basically matches the M2 Max in a mbp.

Re:Ryzen 8000G review: An integrated GPU that can beat a gra... by rainburg on Tuesday January 30, 2024 @06:13AM (#39188720)
There’s either a mistake or this is a bad metric, perhaps.

Currently the most powerful AMD iGPU is Radeon 780M (found 7840U/HS and 8700G CPUs). Judging by Notebookcheck‘s results, M2 Max GPU has up 2× the fps in Borderlands, 2.5× the fps in Witcher 3, and 3× the fps in Shadow of The Tomb Raider.

As for the benchmarks, the M2 Max GPU has 4–6× the fps in GFXBench, compared to Radeon 780M. And the RDNA3-based 780M has twice the raw compute performance, compared to Steam Deck’s RDNA2 GPU.

Unfortunately, GPUs in handhelds are always severely underpowered.

Re:Ryzen 8000G review: An integrated GPU that can beat a gra... by dathinab on Tuesday January 30, 2024 @06:51AM (#39189019)
at least historically handhelds can't be too expensive if they want to archive wide success

M2 Max isn't available on the free market (as part) but if it where it likely alone would cost noticable more then what a full handheld can afford to cost

Re:Ryzen 8000G review: An integrated GPU that can beat a gra... by viraptor on Tuesday January 30, 2024 @09:05AM (#39190230)
I meant the CPU part of 8000G, not the GPU. Could've been clearer about it.
Re:Ryzen 8000G review: An integrated GPU that can beat a gra... by verwalt on Tuesday January 30, 2024 @11:37AM (#39192159)
The biggest problem of the M2 Max: the games you mentioned are 3 of like 10 that run on it (might be more, I am exaggerating a bit).

I wish Asahi would move forward much faster and I could game on it, but at this point, gaming on a Mac isn't really a thing.

Source: I have one from work that I really want to be able to play. Whisky, Crossover, Parallels, I tried them all.

Re:Ryzen 8000G review: An integrated GPU that can beat a gra... by freetonik on Tuesday January 30, 2024 @07:09AM (#39189163)
>Steamdeck with integrated RDNA2 is very capable with even modern games.

With a caveat: at its native 1280×800 resolution.

Re:Ryzen 8000G review: An integrated GPU that can beat a gra... by gpderetta on Tuesday January 30, 2024 @08:18AM (#39189747)
Sometimes even lower with upscaling. But yes, one "advantage" of handhelds is that, thanks to their tiny screens, they can run at lower resolution without too much visible degradation.