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Re:Florida House of Representatives approves bill to ban soc... by reaperman on Monday January 29, 2024 @03:22PM (#39181948)
Minors dont get full constitutional protections. I think they should have more rights than they do, but the first amendment is already more limited for minors than for adults.

Tinker v. Des Moines has repeatedly been chipped away (e.g. Bethel School District v. Frasier).

Minors cant produce pornography.

Minors have their freedom of association and expression limited by employment laws.

Minors speech is not free at home due to parental control or at school.

Minors can’t consent to medical treatment which limits their ability to discuss sensitive issues.

Minors cant vote or run for public office, which limits their direct participation in political expression and civil engagement.

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Re:Florida House of Representatives approves bill to ban soc... by PH95VuimJjqBqy on Monday January 29, 2024 @04:22PM (#39182823)
do you _want_ 3 year olds voting?

All that would do is give people with children multiple votes.

Re:Florida House of Representatives approves bill to ban soc... by riversflow on Monday January 29, 2024 @02:53PM (#39181541)
> There is no age limit to that restriction

Wrong I’m afraid. Minors don’t have full rights, that’s why their bag/locker/car can be searched randomly, why they can have speech abridged, why they can’t see NC-17 movies(edit: scratch that one). The supreme court has weighed against minors many times.

Re:Florida House of Representatives approves bill to ban soc... by Longlius on Monday January 29, 2024 @03:40PM (#39182216)
>why they can’t see NC-17 movies

This is not a law, this is a voluntary regulation undertaken by the motion picture industry.

Re:Florida House of Representatives approves bill to ban soc... by riversflow on Monday January 29, 2024 @03:56PM (#39182456)
Good call, edited.
Re:Florida House of Representatives approves bill to ban soc... by delichon on Monday January 29, 2024 @03:02PM (#39181685)
> why they can’t see NC-17 movies

The first amendment is a restriction on Congress, and does not apply to the private Motion Picture Association that maintains the film rating system.

> why they can have speech abridged

I don't think that's true of federal law. There are cases, such as in school, where more restrictions are permitted to the school. But those restrictions are not based on age.

Re:Florida House of Representatives approves bill to ban soc... by reaperman on Monday January 29, 2024 @03:43PM (#39182265)
> There are cases, such as in school, where more restrictions are permitted to the school. But those restrictions are not based on age.

After 18 you can choose whether to be in school or not. Those restrictions are voluntary for adults but compulsory for minors (who do not get to choose whether they go to public school, private school, homeschool, or just pass the GED)

Re:Florida House of Representatives approves bill to ban soc... by datavirtue on Monday January 29, 2024 @03:58PM (#39182491)
”that’s why their bag/locker/car can be searched randomly"

This has always disgusted me about public school.

No better way to erode rights and democracy than ingraining absolute tyranny in children. I was never search but I was convicted and punished many times on zero evidence, just some authority assuming I did something.

Re:Florida House of Representatives approves bill to ban soc... by freetanga on Monday January 29, 2024 @02:48PM (#39181477)
You are free to express yourself in a park.

You are not free to enter the White House to express yourself.

Enforcing a property owners right to refuse entry (digital or physical) does not prevent you from expressing yourself, but rather from doing it that specific property.

Social Networks are not a public space

Re:Florida House of Representatives approves bill to ban soc... by IanCal on Monday January 29, 2024 @02:51PM (#39181505)
Freedom of speech isn't, as a US legal term, about being able to post on privately owned websites.
Re:Florida House of Representatives approves bill to ban soc... by NegativeK on Monday January 29, 2024 @03:23PM (#39181969)
It is about the government's (state and federal) ability to regulate if you can post on privately owned websites.