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Re:Florida House of Representatives approves bill to ban soc... by blitz_skull on Monday January 29, 2024 @02:15PM (#39181000)
You know, I'm not really sure that requiring IDs for access to porn / social media is a terrible idea. Sure it's been anonymous and free since the advent of the internet, but perhaps it's time to change that. After all, we don't allow a kid into a brothel or allow them to engage in prostitution (for good reasons), and porn is equally destructive.

But with the topic at hand being social media, I think a lot of the same issues and solutions apply. It's harmful to allow kids to interact with anyone and everyone at any given time. Boundaries are healthy.

Aaaaand, finally there's much less destruction of human livelihood by guns than both of the aforementioned topics if we measure "destruction" by "living a significantly impoverished life from the standard of emotional and mental wellbeing". I doubt we could even get hard numbers on the number of marriages destroyed by pornography, which yield broken households, which yield countless emotional and mental problems.

So, no, guns aren't something we should discuss first. Also, guns have utility including but not limited to defending yourself and your family. Porn has absolutely zero utility, and social media is pretty damn close, but not zero utility.

Re:Florida House of Representatives approves bill to ban soc... by diputsmonro on Monday January 29, 2024 @04:48PM (#39183172)
The biggest problem with this is how we would define "porn". Some states are currently redefining the existence of a transgender person in public as an inherently lewd act equivalent to indecent exposure.

I have no doubt that if your proposal were to pass that there would be significant efforts from extremist conservatives to censor LGBT+ communities online by labeling sex education or mere discussion of our lives as pornographic. How are LGBT+ people supposed to live if our very existence is considered impolite?

Nevermind the fact that the existence of a government database of all the (potentially weird) porn you look at is a gold mine for anyone who wants to blackmail or pressure you into silence.

The horrors and dangers of porn are squarely a domestic and family issue. The government does not need to come into my bedroom and look over my shoulder.

Re:Florida House of Representatives approves bill to ban soc... by blitz_skull on Monday January 29, 2024 @10:33PM (#39186105)
> The biggest problem with this is how we would define “porn”.

I wholeheartedly agree. And that’s a problem we should lean into and solve. Its difficulty doesn’t make it less worth of solving.

> The horrors and dangers of porn are squarely a domestic and family issue.

Therein lies the problem however. Every systemic issue in our world begins in a family or domestic situation of some form. While I am well aware and also concerned about the implications of government overreach here, I don’t think we can throw up our hands and say, “Meh”. At a minimum it can begin with education. We can teach people about the destructive nature of porn (and social media).

The fact that this impacts every family, domestic situation, and therefore indirectly or directly touches every single life in our society actually kinda makes it a great candidate for government oversight.

Re:Florida House of Representatives approves bill to ban soc... by lelanthran on Tuesday January 30, 2024 @04:26AM (#39188010)
> The biggest problem with this is how we would define "porn". Some states are currently redefining the existence of a transgender person in public as an inherently lewd act equivalent to indecent exposure.

This is the first I've heard about this. Link?

Re:Florida House of Representatives approves bill to ban soc... by mlrtime on Tuesday January 30, 2024 @09:56AM (#39190783)
This isn't really happening, the closest I can find is the controversial topic of drag shows in public or banning kids from drag shows.

AFAIK there is no real legislation banning a trans person in public.

Re:Florida House of Representatives approves bill to ban soc... by ninnip on Tuesday January 30, 2024 @11:42AM (#39192225)
Agreed, it's just rhetoric. Same as all these claims of an ongoing 'trans genocide' in the USA. Absolute nonsense, but it gets the believers in this ideology all riled up, and so the purpose of this rhetoric is fulfilled.
Re:Florida House of Representatives approves bill to ban soc... by ninnip on Tuesday January 30, 2024 @03:32PM (#39195362)
> Nevermind the fact that the existence of a government database of all the (potentially weird) porn you look at is a gold mine for anyone who wants to blackmail or pressure you into silence.

If you don't want a record of you looking at it, then don't look at it. All you need to do is refrain from pornography consumption. It really is that easy and simple.

Re:Florida House of Representatives approves bill to ban soc... by tempestn on Monday January 29, 2024 @02:28PM (#39181173)
You think watching porn is equally destructive to engaging in prostitution? I'd hate to see what kind of porn you're watching.
Re:Florida House of Representatives approves bill to ban soc... by blitz_skull on Monday January 29, 2024 @10:28PM (#39186080)
I think you’re vastly underestimating the destructive nature of porn. I’m no longer watching porn, by the grace of God.