How French Was Medieval England?

Re:How French Was Medieval England? by prawn on Friday January 26, 2024 @08:23PM (#39151346)

I remember biftek in Turkey also? Bistek appears to be "beef steak" in the Philippines?

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Re:How French Was Medieval England? by bitbckt on Friday January 26, 2024 @08:33PM (#39151409)

“Bistec a la X” for many types of X is part of the Spanish-speaking world, including the Philippines. The spelling with a “k” is a loan word into Tagalog.

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Re:How French Was Medieval England? by fuzztester on Friday January 26, 2024 @10:19PM (#39152130)

And what does the X stand for in that?

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Re:How French Was Medieval England? by jdminhbg on Friday January 26, 2024 @11:10PM (#39152461)

Anything. Bistec a la Mexicana is “Mexican-style steak.” Replace with any nationality or style or whatever.

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Re:How French Was Medieval England? by teknico on Saturday January 27, 2024 @02:05AM (#39153340)

“Bistecca” in Italian.

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Re:How French Was Medieval England? by narag on Saturday January 27, 2024 @06:51AM (#39154793)

Bistec a la X” for many types of X is part of the Spanish-speaking world

Right, even for X = pork. But lately, it's fading in favour of "filete" (slice) of X, at least in Spain.

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Re:How French Was Medieval England? by fuzztester on Friday January 26, 2024 @08:35PM (#39151423)

Yes. Not been to Turkey, but I read about cuisines, for fun, including on Wikipedia and food blogs. And IIRC, steak is called biftek in Turkey.

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Re:How French Was Medieval England? by cyberax on Friday January 26, 2024 @09:51PM (#39151949)

It's also similar in Russian and Ukrainian: "beefshteks"

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Re:How French Was Medieval England? by nemo8551 on Saturday January 27, 2024 @01:53PM (#39158567)

This was definitely a tradecraft code word when two dudes passed a briefcase between each other in a cold park one day in Moscow.

Heavy, heavy pronunciation going on to near comical effect.

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Re:How French Was Medieval England? by fuzztester on Saturday January 27, 2024 @02:29PM (#39158937)

Psst! Tovarisch! Next meeting at 11:00 p.m. Tuesday under the bridge just after Gorky Prospekt! Wear a grey checked coat, with a copy of Pravda under your arm. Da?

Oops, too many spy novels plus a bad sense of humour ... ;)

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Re:How French Was Medieval England? by fuzztester on Wednesday January 31, 2024 @07:19PM (#39211388)

Or maybe, too many bad spy novels :)

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Re:How French Was Medieval England? by nemo8551 on Saturday January 27, 2024 @01:50PM (#39158532)

I think there used to be a kebab place in Glasgow called bifteki.

It generally signalled the end of a night when you headed there.

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Re:How French Was Medieval England? by lynguist on Saturday January 27, 2024 @07:12PM (#39161191)

English beefsteak -> French bifte(c)k -> Turkish biftek -> Greek bifteki

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Re:How French Was Medieval England? by nemo8551 on Monday January 29, 2024 @07:39AM (#39175553)

Thanks, that makes a good deal of sense.

I guess there’s probably been a few places called bifteki around the uk and other countries then.

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Re:How French Was Medieval England? by samstave on Saturday January 27, 2024 @02:53PM (#39159167)

Yep - Bistek is beef steak in PH. and Bifstek in India is likely due to colonialism. Its amazing that Chicken Makhani was actually invented in the UK.

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