Re:Brains are not required to think or solve problems – simp...
by bumby on Thursday January 25, 2024 @10:33PM
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Would this imply that someone who claims to lose the sense of self (or seems to realize it as a hallucination) through “sober” techniques like meditation would no longer be conscious?
Re:Brains are not required to think or solve problems – simp...
by therobots927 on Thursday January 25, 2024 @10:35PM
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Quite the opposite. I'm saying that a sense of self is not necessary for consciousness. And that many people write off simple objects as having consciousness when really what they mean as that those objects don't have a sense of self.
I think in a lot of these conversations people say consciousness and assume that consciousness always mirrors their own, which just so happens to come along with a sense of self for 99.9% of sober individuals. So I think it's important to distinguish between the two things.