The 2023 Hugo nomination statistics have been released and we have questions

Re:The 2023 Hugo nomination statistics have been released an... by at_a_remove on Thursday January 25, 2024 @01:43PM (#39133101)

Once something like "If I Were A Dinosaur, My Love" wins a Nebula and even gets a nomination for a Hugo, well, it's over. Pack it up, relevant only in the sense that it can be counted among the fallen, and so forth. Just as regulatory capture is when some fraction of government is instead puppeteered by that which it is supposed to regulate, so we have something similar where an awards group is subsumed by some ideology and no longer serves its function.

Perhaps something new will arise in its place, with better guidelines to avoid subversion.

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Re:The 2023 Hugo nomination statistics have been released an... by amanaplanacanal on Thursday January 25, 2024 @02:08PM (#39133590)

I don't understand. isn't the awards group for the Hugo everyone who buys a ticket for the con? and the nebulas are voted by all 2000+ members of the science fiction and fantasy writers association. it's not some secret cabal we are talking about here.

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Re:The 2023 Hugo nomination statistics have been released an... by viraptor on Thursday January 25, 2024 @03:10PM (#39134520)

I don't get it. Just read it and it's a fine story to me. What's so terrible there that it shouldn't be nominated? (i.e. that nobody should think it deserves the award)

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Re:The 2023 Hugo nomination statistics have been released an... by spondylosaurus on Thursday January 25, 2024 @01:57PM (#39133395)

I get the first part of the joke, but what's the "something new will arise in its place"?

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Re:The 2023 Hugo nomination statistics have been released an... by at_a_remove on Thursday January 25, 2024 @02:04PM (#39133521)

Joke? No joke intended.

I hope another award system will arise that will not be as subvertable, will stay true to its origins, and so forth. But don't mind me, I thought pulling the bust of Lovecraft off of the World Fantasy Award was also a lousy move.

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Re:The 2023 Hugo nomination statistics have been released an... by spondylosaurus on Thursday January 25, 2024 @10:37PM (#39138646)

But the story you mentioned did get a Nebula and a Hugo nom? Am I missing something?

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Re:The 2023 Hugo nomination statistics have been released an... by bigbillheck on Thursday January 25, 2024 @02:21PM (#39133818)

> Once something like "If I Were A Dinosaur, My Love"

Perhaps unsurprisingly for someone with your politics (per your post history) you've got the pronoun wrong, it's "If You", not "If I".

That aside, in the initial nominating stage it was on just 65 ballots of 865, and that year they couldn't get enough qualifying nominations in that category for a full slate: https://www.thehugoawards.org/content/pdf/2014HugoStatistics... (p20)

There were 11 other candidates that didn't get enough votes to make the ballot, which ones do you think should have made it on?

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Re:The 2023 Hugo nomination statistics have been released an... by sickofparadox on Thursday January 25, 2024 @03:26PM (#39134760)

Very unhinged behavior to go through someone's post history to attempt a dunk on them.

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Re:The 2023 Hugo nomination statistics have been released an... by at_a_remove on Thursday January 25, 2024 @07:02PM (#39137197)

It's pretty standard for those types. They think 1984 was a manual. "We have examined your writings for subversive thoughts ..."

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Re:The 2023 Hugo nomination statistics have been released an... by AlexeyBelov on Saturday January 27, 2024 @03:53AM (#39153855)

What is it unhinged? To me it sounds like a public profile has a certain reputation on this site.

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