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Re:The 2023 Hugo nomination statistics have been released an... by kevinventullo on Thursday January 25, 2024 @01:11PM (#39132544)
For what it’s worth, I did not know that, and I find it disappointing. Is there evidence that previous nomination processes were rigged in a way similar to what is suggested here?
Re:The 2023 Hugo nomination statistics have been released an... by araes on Thursday January 25, 2024 @01:23PM (#39132754)
From the blog post being passed around (9 categories of entries with distribution per nominee)

2022 was a semi-normal year. https://alpennia.com/sites/default/files/styles/large/public...

2015 is the worst prior year. https://alpennia.com/sites/default/files/styles/large/public...

2023 has weird cliff voting. https://alpennia.com/sites/default/files/styles/large/public...

Re:The 2023 Hugo nomination statistics have been released an... by mintplant on Thursday January 25, 2024 @02:36PM (#39134064)
For reference, 2015 was the year the "Sad Puppies"/"Rabid Puppies" slates tried hard to skew the vote for the alt-right, and managed to distort the set of nominated works. "No Award" won many categories that year as a protest vote by WorldCon attendees.

(Many jokes were made that year about "Noah Ward", multi-Hugo-winning author extraordinaire...)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sad_Puppies

Re:The 2023 Hugo nomination statistics have been released an... by aspenmayer on Thursday January 25, 2024 @01:17PM (#39132630)
I think this is exactly what you’re looking for. I’m reading through it now. Please reply with your findings if you have the time and inclination.

https://alpennia.com/blog/comparison-hugo-nomination-distrib...

More info at my original thread:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39132517

Re:The 2023 Hugo nomination statistics have been released an... by cstross on Thursday January 25, 2024 @01:19PM (#39132677)
It's bullshit.

There was an extensive campaign in favour of a particular faction circa 2013-17 organized by two loose groups (the Sad Puppies and the Rabid Puppies) which in retrospect were best understood as dry runs for Gamergate, but they flopped (all they could do was rig the shortlist: but the Hugo voters are allowed to vote "no award" if they don't like the menu, and they did so with gusto until the rules could be reformed to make nomination-brigading impractical).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sad_Puppies

Re:The 2023 Hugo nomination statistics have been released an... by TheCoelacanth on Thursday January 25, 2024 @01:28PM (#39132822)
And even in the case of those campaigns "rigging" meant campaigning to get people to vote in a way that many people found distasteful and that was probably against the spirit of the awards, not that any actual rules were violated.

That's very different than this case where there is evidence of fraudulent tabulation of votes and gross misapplication of the eligibility rules.

Re:The 2023 Hugo nomination statistics have been released an... by bigbillheck on Thursday January 25, 2024 @01:24PM (#39132760)
> which in retrospect were best understood as dry runs for Gamergate

Gamergate kicked off between the 2nd and 3rd Sad Puppy slates and before the 1st Rabid Puppy.

Re:The 2023 Hugo nomination statistics have been released an... by gred on Thursday January 25, 2024 @02:28PM (#39133935)
> which in retrospect were best understood as dry runs for Gamergate

Where do I sign up for this monolithic Vast Right-wing Media Conspiracy? How much are the annual dues? I always get left out of these things!