Re:Gene Therapy Allows an 11-Year-Old Boy to Hear
by lucioperca on Wednesday January 24, 2024 @03:54AM
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Re:Gene Therapy Allows an 11-Year-Old Boy to Hear
by eythian on Wednesday January 24, 2024 @07:28AM
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I've noticed this within accents of the same language. My own English accent has a very mild separation between the i and e vowels in, e.g., bitter and better. To my ear they sound wildly different, but many native speakers from other places and more English-as-a-second-language speakers can really struggle to tell apart what I'm saying, to the point that it's usually easier for me to switch languages to the local one to distinguish the words if the context is ambiguous. Oddly, despite noticing shifts in my accent having lived abroad for some time now, this is something that hasn't budged.
Similarly in my (learnt as an adult) second language, there are a couple of vowel sounds that aren't in English and I usually have to really focus to hear them, and to pronounce them correctly.
Re:Gene Therapy Allows an 11-Year-Old Boy to Hear
by LocalH on Wednesday January 24, 2024 @08:39AM
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The classic American example for me was always "ten/tin", "pen/pin", which in my Southern neck of the woods are typically homophones. My girlfriend is Midwestern, and definitely pronounces the "e" more in those variants.
Re:Gene Therapy Allows an 11-Year-Old Boy to Hear
by LastNevadan on Wednesday January 24, 2024 @08:52AM
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My favorite example in English is this sentence: "I peered at a pair of pears on the pier."
As a native speaker, the sounds in peer/pair/pear/pier are slightly but detectable different. But non-native speakers can almost never say or hear these differences.
Re:Gene Therapy Allows an 11-Year-Old Boy to Hear
by Thorrez on Wednesday January 24, 2024 @09:00AM
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As a native English speaker (American) I think "peer" and "pier" are pronounced the same, and that "pair" and "pear" are pronounced the same, but that the 2 groups are pronounced quite differently.
But I've also seen this with American and some English adults trying to learn Norwegian - a great many of them can't hear the difference between vowels which, to me, are totally different. Can't hear the difference between the words "har" and "her", for example (NB: Norwegian sounds. Not English vowels). It seems to take a couple of years of daily ear training (or rather, brain training). As always, there are exceptions. But those exceptions are truly standing out.
(Added: As soon as there's context or visibility the problem is much reduced - but it's still there, as soon as there's only audio and their language level isn't good enough to "select" the right words from context).