Apple dials back car's self-driving features and delays launch to 2028

Re:Apple dials back car's self-driving features and delays l... by kibwen on Tuesday January 23, 2024 @08:59PM (#39112697)

> Manufacturing of both cars and batteries. That's vertical integration.

Tesla is building their own battery packs, but they're still buying the cells from Panasonic, just like everyone else (Apple included) has the option to do.

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Re:Apple dials back car's self-driving features and delays l... by TaylorAlexander on Tuesday January 23, 2024 @11:35PM (#39113667)

Unless I’ve misunderstood something, this is incorrect. According to this October article Tesla has produced 20 million of their own battery cells at their Texas gigafactory: https://electrek.co/2023/10/11/tesla-4680-battery-cell-produ...

And their first gigafactory in Nevada as far as I know has been producing cells for years. I suspect they stopped buying cells from Panasonic years ago.

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Re:Apple dials back car's self-driving features and delays l... by yasuocidal on Wednesday January 24, 2024 @01:41AM (#39114361)

Tesla has a special deal with panasonic[0], maybe they ""colab"" on the development of the batteries

[0]https://www.tesla.com/blog/panasonic-enters-supply-agreement...

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Re:Apple dials back car's self-driving features and delays l... by TaylorAlexander on Wednesday January 24, 2024 @02:58AM (#39114791)

Ah I looked for something more current and it seems Panasonic is operating production inside of Tesla's factory: https://www.theverge.com/2019/4/11/18305976/tesla-panasonic-...

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Re:Apple dials back car's self-driving features and delays l... by PinguTS on Wednesday January 24, 2024 @03:10AM (#39114865)

Actually, the Gigafactories are operated by Panasonic on behalf of Tesla. Technically the cell production in the Gigafactory is done by Panasonic and the packs then assembled by Tesla.

https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Automobiles/Panasonic-to-bo...

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