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Re:Boeing Whistleblower: Max 9 Production Line Has "Enormous... by berniedurfee on Tuesday January 23, 2024 @03:27PM (#39109272)
I remember being on a team that spent a little over 2 weeks doing detailed project planning and estimating. We said the project would take 8 months.

The leadership team came back and said upon further review, the project would take 3 months.

I was so relieved to hear we could get 8 months of work done in just 3!

That’s why executives get paid the big bucks!

Re:Boeing Whistleblower: Max 9 Production Line Has "Enormous... by laurels-marts on Tuesday January 23, 2024 @04:36PM (#39110232)
I’ve seen teams do 2 weeks of detailed project planning and estimating where the entire project could have been done in 2 weeks by a good team if they just set their nose to grindstone and did the work.

It’s unbelievable how useless some of these planning and estimating sessions are.

Re:Boeing Whistleblower: Max 9 Production Line Has "Enormous... by paleotrope on Tuesday January 23, 2024 @07:06PM (#39111799)
Dealing with that right now. I have multiple PMs and directors involved in requesting another team to literally do five minutes of work because we didn't insist they put it in the current iteration and they put it several iterations away.
Re:Boeing Whistleblower: Max 9 Production Line Has "Enormous... by jsight on Tuesday January 23, 2024 @05:36PM (#39110942)
In a lot of places that was the real waterfall method, and also how waterfall earned its illustrious reputation.
Re:Boeing Whistleblower: Max 9 Production Line Has "Enormous... by berniedurfee on Tuesday January 23, 2024 @06:24PM (#39111431)
Waterfail FTW
Re:Boeing Whistleblower: Max 9 Production Line Has "Enormous... by genman on Tuesday January 23, 2024 @06:58PM (#39111719)
I'm now curious. So for how long did it actually take?
Re:Boeing Whistleblower: Max 9 Production Line Has "Enormous... by jrs235 on Tuesday January 23, 2024 @10:15PM (#39113184)
Probably got cancelled after 2 months after they realized it was going to take 6 more months.
Re:Boeing Whistleblower: Max 9 Production Line Has "Enormous... by berniedurfee on Wednesday January 24, 2024 @07:16AM (#39116385)
Not sure, my contract ended a year later.