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Re:Boeing Whistleblower: Max 9 Production Line Has "Enormous... by mcmcmc on Tuesday January 23, 2024 @09:22AM (#39103609)
Engineering failures don’t just happen in some contextless organizational vacuum
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Re:Boeing Whistleblower: Max 9 Production Line Has "Enormous... by tiahura on Tuesday January 23, 2024 @10:31AM (#39104700)
Engineers can't fail, it's always management's fault.
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Re:Boeing Whistleblower: Max 9 Production Line Has "Enormous... by g-b-r on Tuesday January 23, 2024 @11:00AM (#39105115)
> Engineers can't fail, it's always management's fault.

or, what can engineers possibly know about engineering: https://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=213075

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Re:Boeing Whistleblower: Max 9 Production Line Has "Enormous... by swexbe on Tuesday January 23, 2024 @10:40AM (#39104825)
Unironically, yes? Management is where the buck stops.
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Re:Boeing Whistleblower: Max 9 Production Line Has "Enormous... by gilbetron on Tuesday January 23, 2024 @10:48AM (#39104939)
Engineering needs to be embedded in a system that can handle the fact that engineers fail and still produce reliable and effective outputs. The primary purpose of management is making sure such as system exists and functions. Managers are the engineers of the entire meta-system, basically.
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Re:Boeing Whistleblower: Max 9 Production Line Has "Enormous... by lou1306 on Tuesday January 23, 2024 @10:51AM (#39104981)
Engineers can fail, and when they don't QA may, but it's management that chose to believe otherwise
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Re:Boeing Whistleblower: Max 9 Production Line Has "Enormous... by lamontcg on Tuesday January 23, 2024 @01:11PM (#39107192)
Yes, in fact the Captain is always responsible for literally everything that happens on the ship.
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Re:Boeing Whistleblower: Max 9 Production Line Has "Enormous... by enasterosophes on Tuesday January 23, 2024 @04:29PM (#39110139)
If management don't want to take responsibility, they could take a pay cut and give the money to the engineers.
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