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Re:Nightshade: A Defensive Tool for Artists Against AI Art G... by scheeseman486 on Saturday January 20, 2024 @11:58PM (#39075721)
Hey you know what might not be AI generated post-2021? Almost everything run through Nightshade. So given it's defeated, which is pretty likely, artists have effectively tagged their own work for inclusion.
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Re:Nightshade: A Defensive Tool for Artists Against AI Art G... by hkt on Sunday January 21, 2024 @01:01AM (#39076023)
It is a great shame that we have come to a no-win situation for artists when VCs are virtually unable to lose.
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Re:Nightshade: A Defensive Tool for Artists Against AI Art G... by ToucanLoucan on Sunday January 21, 2024 @10:48AM (#39079474)
I mean that's more or less status quo isn't it? Big business does what it wants, common people can get fucked if they don't like it. Same as it ever was.
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Re:Nightshade: A Defensive Tool for Artists Against AI Art G... by hkt on Sunday January 21, 2024 @02:36PM (#39082095)
That's exactly right. It is just the variety of new ways in which common people get fucked that is dispiriting, with seemingly nothing capable of moving in the opposite direction.
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Re:Nightshade: A Defensive Tool for Artists Against AI Art G... by visarga on Sunday January 21, 2024 @12:28PM (#39080480)
Modern generative image models are trained on curated data, not raw internet data. Sometimes the captions are regenerated to fit the image better. Only high quality images with high quality descriptions.
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Re:Nightshade: A Defensive Tool for Artists Against AI Art G... by og_kalu on Sunday January 21, 2024 @11:19PM (#39086137)
I wouldn't call what Stable Diffusion et al are trained on "high quality". You need only look through the likes of LAION to see the kind of captions and images they get trained on.

It's not random but it's not particularly curated either. Most of the time, any curation is done afterwards.

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Re:Nightshade: A Defensive Tool for Artists Against AI Art G... by visarga on Monday January 22, 2024 @11:28AM (#39091356)
Have you seen the BLIP paper? It's a bit old now, but it introduced a curation method.

https://arxiv.org/abs/2201.12086

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Re:Nightshade: A Defensive Tool for Artists Against AI Art G... by kmeisthax on Sunday January 21, 2024 @12:58PM (#39080814)
Why wouldn't an artist just generate AI spam and Nightshade it?
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