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Re:System76 Thelio Major Powered by AMD Ryzen Threadripper 7... by DyslexicAtheist on Friday January 19, 2024 @01:44PM (#39059325)
they are not if you consider the effort that goes into Pop_OS, firmware, coreboot, custom-BIOS and all the testing that is required for it. It's in many ways a phenomenal deal if this is all you need. And considering that you can re-use these things on a Clevo I'd rather support System76 in what they do.

However if you don't care about Pop_OS and really insist on an ISO keyboard then Clevo (or something like Tuxedo Computers) are better options.

When it comes to hardware a Clevo is a Texedo is a System76 is a Sager (and a bunch of others)

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Re:System76 Thelio Major Powered by AMD Ryzen Threadripper 7... by trelane on Friday January 19, 2024 @03:07PM (#39060406)
> When it comes to hardware a Clevo is a Texedo is a System76 is a Sager (and a bunch of others)

1. That's not necessarily a fact; I don't know that it's been established one way or the other. There may well be small variances in design at the hardware level

2. In a modern PC, firmware is a gigantic factor in how well an OS works on the hardware. See all the troubles with ACPI for a starting point. Even non-obvious things like fans depend greatly on firmware.[1]

In short, if you want to run Linux, buy a Linux computer, with support for as long as you plan on using it, from a company that supports Linux on the hardware.

If you don't, be prepared for random glitches due to the mismatch between OS and firmware.

[1] https://twitter.com/jeremy_soller/status/1322954630448427011

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