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Re:Canadian man stuck in triangle of e-commerce fraud by ttul on Friday January 19, 2024 @11:03AM (#39056996)
Frankly, this is yet another article justifying why you must never speak to the police.
Re:Canadian man stuck in triangle of e-commerce fraud by dmoy on Friday January 19, 2024 @11:08AM (#39057053)
(the canonical talk on that topic: https://youtu.be/d-7o9xYp7eE?feature=shared)
Re:Canadian man stuck in triangle of e-commerce fraud by bigbabybuckman on Friday January 19, 2024 @11:45AM (#39057518)
Re:Canadian man stuck in triangle of e-commerce fraud by tamimio on Friday January 19, 2024 @01:38PM (#39059279)
Does that even work in Canada? The article is about a Canadian issue.
Re:Canadian man stuck in triangle of e-commerce fraud by cldellow on Friday January 19, 2024 @02:37PM (#39060025)
If you invoked the fifth, you'd be made fun of, since that's a US thing.

But section 7 of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms:

> Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of the person and the right not to be deprived thereof except in accordance with the principles of fundamental justice.

has been found to provide similar protections. You can be required to identify yourself, and, in drunk driving cases, you can be required to do roadside sobriety tests, but in general, you aren't obliged to answer questions from the police.

Re:Canadian man stuck in triangle of e-commerce fraud by bigbabybuckman on Monday January 22, 2024 @10:28PM (#39099258)
STFU
Re:Canadian man stuck in triangle of e-commerce fraud by oh_sigh on Friday January 19, 2024 @11:44AM (#39057497)
What part of him talking to the police worsened his situation?
Re:Canadian man stuck in triangle of e-commerce fraud by TinyRick on Friday January 19, 2024 @11:53AM (#39057642)
My interpretation is that he provided enough evidence to the RCMP that convinced them to stay the case, since they likely thought the evidence they had to convict Barker was weak. This lead to him not having a chance in court to clear his name.

Had he not spoken to the police at all, and instead waited to present his evidence in court, he likely would have been found not guilty and therefore would have cleared his name.

Him talking to police worsened the situation because they are not the ones who evaluate the evidence and make a conviction decision (judges/juries do that). The job of the police is to collect evidence, and Barker did that for them (to his detriment).

Re:Canadian man stuck in triangle of e-commerce fraud by unsupp0rted on Friday January 19, 2024 @11:55AM (#39057660)
Being out of town in Halifax for the following 3 days probably made the officer a lot less convinced of innocence right off the bat. That's why he showed up at the house the next day.
Re:Canadian man stuck in triangle of e-commerce fraud by mindslight on Friday January 19, 2024 @12:21PM (#39058088)
So much just-world-fallacy-inspired victim blaming in this thread. The problem here is actually better described as a breakdown in communication with the police, on the part of the RCMP. (I wonder if they have their own videos like "Don't listen to your victims" and "Shut your eyes Mondays" ?)

Modulo the third party scammer that created the situation, the bad actor here is the RCMP itself for bringing the weight of the government down on this guy without doing the real work of actually investigating. The true reform would be to destroy this regressive idea whereby government agents/systems can attack people and then just walk away from the matter after realizing they are wrong. If there were statutory reimbursements for hiring legal representation, time spent/detained, emotional distress etc, then the victim here would have the resources to continue the matter in the eventually consistent justice system. Instead the official policy would seem to be something like "Thank you for your involuntary contribution to this rookie agent's training. Better luck next time"

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Re:Canadian man stuck in triangle of e-commerce fraud by mkoryak on Friday January 19, 2024 @11:10AM (#39057075)
Even better, live somewhere where you're the police
Re:Canadian man stuck in triangle of e-commerce fraud by dorfsmay on Friday January 19, 2024 @11:12AM (#39057097)
Can you elaborate?

Which countries would that be? And have you tried to live in one of them? How did it go?

Re:Canadian man stuck in triangle of e-commerce fraud by dmoy on Friday January 19, 2024 @12:11PM (#39057922)
The only people who I've talked to at length who lived somewhere without police were Somali living in Minneapolis

They do not have good things to say about no police (also tends to go hand in hand with no firefighters, and everything controlled by warlords).

Re:Canadian man stuck in triangle of e-commerce fraud by selimthegrim on Friday January 19, 2024 @03:50PM (#39060942)
Similar to people I talked to who lived in (former) Pakistan FATA and PATA