Re:Flattr is closing down
by BottingRocks on Thursday January 18, 2024 @12:28PM
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I believe that in the last couple of years the line between donation and begging has been blurred.
You have things on the extreme side like people begging on tiktok live doing shoutouts to every viewer that donates a significant gift.On the IRL side you also have people donating to the craziest streamers doing the most outrageous stuff outside. Then you also have super donations on Youtube on live podcasts.
When donations are incorporated on a social app it fosters an environment that makes donating acceptable and fun. Hardly anyone is going to trust their debit card/credit card details to a random site, but the masses will trust buying credits/donations/subscriptions through tiktok,youtube, twitch, patreon etc.
Re:Flattr is closing down
by throwawayq3423 on Thursday January 18, 2024 @01:23PM
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I think the one trick is using subscriptions that people opt into one time and just forget about. Using the dodgy psychology tricks of gym memberships to actually help people.
Re:Flattr is closing down
by PreachSoup on Thursday January 18, 2024 @01:40PM
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If that's the case, not sure if that's better than ads. I'd rather workout in an ads filled gym for free than paying for la fitness gym membership
Re:Flattr is closing down
by throwawayq3423 on Wednesday January 24, 2024 @11:30PM
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I would 100% rather pay a fee. Also for those ads to make economic sense, the gym would be packed wall to wall.
Personally, I think ads can be quite predatory, which is why I dislike them (if ads themselves had better ethics and curation, I might think otherwise -- I have less issues with sponsorships elected by creators). That most people choose not to pay is a problem I think, but I think even ideally not everyone would pay (and that's fine): they may not have the means (although I guess they could just pay a smaller amount instead), or have too many other subscriptions (that they find need more money). I personally donate to a lot of services knowing that many won't pay (and many aren't able to), and I'm happy to contribute (although I think it would be better for everyone if they considered donating more!)
It's a real hockey stick graph where 90% of your donations come from 5% of users.
Trust me, everyone says they prefer paying/donating over ads, but when you look at the numbers, just about everyone prefers no compensation (and no ads) and chooses that if given the option.