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Re:A High Frequency Trader's Apology, Pt 2 by yummyfajitas on Saturday April 28, 2012 @05:38PM (#3904197)
An HFT spreads risk among it's customers as well. When you cross the spread you aren't necessarily EXPECTING the stock to go down, you just don't want to take the chance.

The only time the HFT could be said to have screwed up is if they're losing money overall.

I find that to be a stretch, since the entire point is that you look for sure bets and attempt to only sell this "insurance" to people who (in your opinion) don't need it.

No, you look for bets with a 90% chance of collecting a $0.10 spread and a 10% chance of a $0.50 price drop (for a net profit of $0.04/trade across many trades). Actually, the odds are usually much worse than that, if your expected profit/share is greater than a penny, you are doing fantastically well. Any HFT who hunts for a sure thing isn't making any money - there are far more 51% gain, 49% loss opportunities than there are sure things.

Re:A High Frequency Trader's Apology, Pt 2 by stabblerpie on Tuesday May 01, 2012 @03:14PM (#3915945)
>Any HFT who hunts for a sure thing isn't making any money - there are far more 51% gain, 49% loss opportunities than there are sure things.

There may be far more 51/49 opportunities. However, saying that HFTs hunting for sure things isn't making money is far from true.

I worked for a UHFT firm that had a winning percentage of more than 95% of the time. The 5% losers had VERY small losses too. All arbitrage trading. Not market making like everyone seems to be focused on in here.