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Re:OpenAI drops ban on military tools to partner with The Pe... by aleph_minus_one on Tuesday January 16, 2024 @09:20PM (#39022380)
> The disdain that seems to infest so many when it comes to working with our national defense organizations is both annoying and bewilderingly naive and that's even when we take into consideration all of the bad things that happen.

I think yor phrase "our national defense organizations" summarizes the counterargument: a lot of readers/commenters on HN live in other countries.

Re:OpenAI drops ban on military tools to partner with The Pe... by Tommstein on Tuesday January 16, 2024 @10:08PM (#39022763)
"10 out of 10 dictators disapprove of the free world improving their defense capabilities!"
Re:OpenAI drops ban on military tools to partner with The Pe... by aleph_minus_one on Tuesday January 16, 2024 @10:36PM (#39022953)
To counter this polemic comment with a more serious one: the invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq after the 9/11 attacks was a central watershed moment in history that lead to a massive shift in the public opinion concerning the US military politics in many countries (and has stayed quite critical of it since then) - including lots of allies of the USA.
Re:OpenAI drops ban on military tools to partner with The Pe... by Tommstein on Tuesday January 16, 2024 @10:59PM (#39023099)
> To counter this polemic comment with a more serious one: the invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq after the 9/11 attacks was a central watershed moment in history that lead to a massive shift in the public opinion concerning the US military politics in many countries (and has stayed quite critical of it since then) - including lots of allies of the USA.

Nice try, but no. Iraq was bullshit, and even we protested it ourselves, but Afghanistan had the support of basically the entire world. Many of those allies you claim don't value our military anymore pee themselves a little at the thought of being left to fend for themselves by us leaving NATO and ceasing to massively subsidize their defense (e.g., the wailing and gnashing when Donald Trump was threatening to take us out of NATO).

Re:OpenAI drops ban on military tools to partner with The Pe... by kridsdale1 on Wednesday January 17, 2024 @02:24AM (#39024413)
Indeed. Iraq was a case of the nation being conned by evil men (Cheney and Rumsfeld). We tried our DAMNDEST to prevent that war. Biggest protests in America ever. Did nothing.

Europe is now in its second, third? year of seeing what life without Uncle Sam would be like. Peaceful Lithuanian and Polish villages filled with the corpses of raped girls.

The military is important and software engineers need to read more of the news from the last 2 years in detail to understand that we’re still the good guys.

Re:OpenAI drops ban on military tools to partner with The Pe... by arp242 on Wednesday January 17, 2024 @04:24AM (#39025397)
> Europe is now in its second, third? year of seeing what life without Uncle Sam would be like. Peaceful Lithuanian and Polish villages filled with the corpses of raped girls.

wat?

Re:OpenAI drops ban on military tools to partner with The Pe... by SantalBlush on Tuesday January 16, 2024 @11:02PM (#39023115)
Not sure who the US was defending when it participated in the Yemeni genocide, but it sure as hell wasn't me.