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Re:On being listed as an artist whose work was used to train... by wrsh07 on Tuesday January 16, 2024 @01:59PM (#39017320)
But sometimes your work is put on Instagram without your knowledge or consent (eg by an Instagram aggregator account)

And this whole ecosystem of credit (or not sharing credit) is undoubtedly encouraged by Instagram (because it's valuable to me to have an Instagram account with many followers)

Re:On being listed as an artist whose work was used to train... by freejazz on Tuesday January 16, 2024 @02:21PM (#39017710)
>But sometimes your work is put on Instagram without your knowledge or consent (eg by an Instagram aggregator account)

That's copyright infringement. You can't claim to own other people's work and then give license to others to use when you don't own the work.

Re:On being listed as an artist whose work was used to train... by wrsh07 on Tuesday January 16, 2024 @03:41PM (#39018842)
Of course it is! It being illegal doesn't mean Instagram is incentivized to crack down on it

And if you're a tiny independent artist you also aren't well-resourced to do anything about it.

(Afaict the best thing we can do is maintain a culture that demands attribution)

Re:On being listed as an artist whose work was used to train... by freejazz on Tuesday January 16, 2024 @05:23PM (#39019996)
I represent tiny independent artists and the best thing you can do is hope that some moneyed media company infringes your work. They never have an excuse and they always pay up.
Re:On being listed as an artist whose work was used to train... by wrsh07 on Wednesday January 17, 2024 @09:05AM (#39027810)
But that's not what happens on Instagram

This isn't like some TV ad using a song they forgot to license

Re:On being listed as an artist whose work was used to train... by freejazz on Wednesday January 17, 2024 @01:38PM (#39031619)
I've recovered for uses on Instagram
Re:On being listed as an artist whose work was used to train... by godelski on Tuesday January 16, 2024 @04:40PM (#39019533)
Sure, but it is quite difficult to prove your work was used in the models and it is also quite expensive legally while being very time consuming. So in practice does it matter? I still believe in presumption of innocence, but that isn't to say that it can't be exploited and that the system itself is expensive (monetarily and temporally). I think you're just oversimplifying the issue and dismissing before considering any nuance.
Re:On being listed as an artist whose work was used to train... by freejazz on Tuesday January 16, 2024 @11:47PM (#39023424)
what am I dismissing? I think these AI companies are stealing these works. Nerds here are equivocating the creation of art with what LLM output, simply out of their own inexperience making art. It's terrible and I hate it.
Re:On being listed as an artist whose work was used to train... by godelski on Wednesday January 17, 2024 @01:56AM (#39024190)
I believe I misinterpreted, it sounded like you were just suggesting it was copyright and thus could empower the artist to sue the companies. As if the process was rather straightforward and thus the fault on the artist for not pursuing. I'll admit that I'm primed by other comments which do express this sentiment explicitly. Sorry if I misunderstood.