why would i pay for some random newspaper from a different country?

I don’t know, to fucking read and become educated?

let me know when you've signed up for some german & french newspapers & have become educated

There's just so much journalism with it's hand out...

if the NYT wants me to buy a subscription they are going to have to do something about the reputation they have for canceling one. Predatory company. Frankly I hope they go out of business along with most of the legacy media

Get it through Apple, cancel anytime through Apple's UI.

This does of course require you to have Apple devices. However I am much more likely to subscribe to low-dollar subscriptions through Apple, precisely because I know I can cancel with no issues.

Amusing how to americans apple is the only way to get decent consumer protection. Your government has failed you.

> how to americans apple is the only way to get decent consumer protection

Straw man. I’ve signed up for and cancelled the Times online on my phone with no issues many times.

GP specifically called out using apple for their consumer protection features. I've seen this many times before. Maybe you disagree, but many other americans absolutely use apple to hedge against a (perceived?) lack of consumer protection laws.

> called out using apple for their consumer protection features. I've seen this many times before.

Sure, they make it easy. It's still a straw man to use that to assail American consumer-protection laws, which are largely some of the most robust in the world. (In practice. Not on paper. Plenty of countries have fine models on paper, but they're also easy to ignore.)

Thanks, that's really funny.

> I hope they go out of business along with most of the legacy media

They're a phenomenally successful property [1]. And they're targeting the country's political and business elite.

If someone can't figure out how to cancel a subscription, they're probably not in the target market of any text-based product.

[1] https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/08/business/media/new-york-t...

I wonder how well HN would do if it were pay-walled? I'm guessing not very well. Then asking people who are here because it's free to pay for linked content is wrong? Hence, I can understand the sentiment behind blocking the nyt content, but not sure I'm 100% behind it, just like I'm not behind making HN for a fee.

That’s an apple to oranges comparison. HN is an online community where most of the value comes from content generated by users (votes, comments, submissions) and the moderation by folks like dang. NY times gets most of its value from the content that its employees create.

I wonder how well the NYT would do if it was backed by Goldman Sachs.