Re:Scrum Sucks
by ed_elliott_asc on Monday January 15, 2024 @12:39PM
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Meetings are long enough without people spending extra effort doing it right :)
Re:Scrum Sucks
by inanutshellus on Monday January 15, 2024 @01:58PM
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Sharpen the saw, man.
It's a one-time conversation (per new team configuration) that makes every conversation thereafter fast.
My team's pointing sessions are lightning.
Even when you do have a new team member that wants to discuss a "0.5-vs-5" point disparity, you explain the above in less time it took to read it and get back to work.
If you measure velocity then the points are additive, how do you reconcile 3 point tasks doable in a day and 5 point tasks not doable in a reasonable amount of time?
Isn't 5 points less than 2 days then?
For the record, in my team we don't use story points or measure velocity. I just had a frustrating discussion with a peer team that didn't plan an important task because "its 5 points and does not fit into a sprint".
When you point a "0.5" and your team points a "5", stop and discuss the discrepancy until an alignment can me found. Keep doing that, every task, until you a collective meaning of "a point" is found.
Personally:
* Less than 1 - These are a smell and should not exist. These misalign incentives and encourage "bike shedding".
* 1 point tasks - no task that requires 2 people (dev and qa) is a 1-pointer, so this is something that needn't be QA'd. 1 point tasks should be rare items that can't be a subtask of a "real" task.
* 3 point tasks - These can be done in a day (depending on the team's opinion, this might be multiple people and still be 3 points). Virtually every task should be a 3.
* 5 point tasks - These are tasks that cannot be broken down to be done in a reasonable amount of time. These are generally things that have minor external dependencies. ("not hard but I'll have to get a server spun up by the unix admins.")
* 8 point tasks - These are rough tasks that haven't been fully dissected by the team and are the scrum version of a "code smell". The team should break these down and dissect them.
* 13 point tasks - "There be dragons here" tasks. Large unknowns and these tasks should not be added to a sprint until they're broken down further.