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Re:Why autonomous trucking is harder than autonomous rideshare by eru on Sunday January 14, 2024 @11:20PM (#38997419)
Freight trains don't have to be louder than passenger trains. (Though from what I've heard, the US has incredible noisy trains, thanks also to lots of horn blaring?)

And quite a few industrialised countries around the world are building more rail lines.

The US already has an extensive freight rail network. It's the one part of their rail transport that works fairly well. Expanding that should be possible.

Especially because freight typically travels slower than passengers, so your track doesn't need to be as straight, so you have more leeway in planning.

Re:Why autonomous trucking is harder than autonomous rideshare by Eisenstein on Monday January 15, 2024 @03:41AM (#38998626)
> And quite a few industrialised countries around the world are building more rail lines.

Can you expound on this?

Re:Why autonomous trucking is harder than autonomous rideshare by eru on Tuesday January 16, 2024 @04:00AM (#39011077)
My own adopted home of Singapore is highly industrialised, and building more rail lines. China is reasonably industrialised and building more rail lines. Spain is building more, etc.

You can do some web searches. Alas, it's a bit hard, because Google seems to insists that I am only interested in new _high-speed_ rail lines, instead of all new rail lines. But if you are willing to only look at those, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proposed_high-speed_rail_by_co... has a list.

Re:Why autonomous trucking is harder than autonomous rideshare by throwaway2037 on Wednesday January 17, 2024 @01:12AM (#39023885)
The original post suggested to build more passenger rails to reduce burden upon freight rails. Does Singapore move any freight by rail?

Also, the original post wrote:

> the US built it's current freight network in a comparatively low tech era, yet I doubt it could do it again in the current era due to funding and beauracracy.

My reply was specific to that. Saying: The original post says little because _no_ highly industrialised nation could build a freight network from scratch given current land and noise constraints.

Re:Why autonomous trucking is harder than autonomous rideshare by eru on Thursday January 18, 2024 @05:30AM (#39040142)
> Does Singapore move any freight by rail?

Not as far as I know.

However, if you can build any rail at all, you can build freight rail, too.

It's mostly in the US that freight rail is noisier than passenger rail. As explained in https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39023890

If you are building new freight rail in your country, you can avoid problems (1) and (2) from that comment. Freight rail doesn't take more land than other rail (if anything, it has lower requirements, because lower speeds mean tighter curves are possible). And freight rail doesn't have to be noisier than passenger rail.

Re:Why autonomous trucking is harder than autonomous rideshare by throwaway2037 on Wednesday January 17, 2024 @01:13AM (#39023890)
Freight is noisy in the US for two reasons: (1) much heavier than trucks on poorly maintained tracks and (2) required horn blaring for safety at road crossings.
Re:Why autonomous trucking is harder than autonomous rideshare by eru on Thursday January 18, 2024 @05:26AM (#39040120)
Yes, the horn blaring is really crazy.