News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:Norway to allow mining waste to be dumped in fjords by Dig1t on Saturday January 13, 2024 @02:01PM (#38983292)
Is mining waste just rocks and dirt? Or is it chemicals?

tbh I don’t see a problem with dumping rocks and dirt in the ocean

Re:Norway to allow mining waste to be dumped in fjords by Modified3019 on Saturday January 13, 2024 @02:16PM (#38983475)
The problem is that the rocks exhumed in mining are chemicals, which then release all that 100% natural heavy metal and arsenic.

The surface of the earth has the benefit of being weathered, with most of the nasty stuff leached away or covered up, but it can be surprising much stuff the water running through debris or mine holes can pick up. Especially since we tend to choose to make mines in areas where there’s especially a lot of nasty stuff.

I can’t speak to the actual danger presented, but this is a pretty reasonable thing to throw up a fuss about.

Re:Norway to allow mining waste to be dumped in fjords by Dig1t on Saturday January 13, 2024 @04:13PM (#38984630)
Doesn’t this same thing happen with geological processes all over the world? Like when a volcano explodes or forms under water?
Re:Norway to allow mining waste to be dumped in fjords by Modified3019 on Sunday January 14, 2024 @04:59AM (#38989040)
Yes, volcanoes are well known for toxic things they release.

It is debatable whether stopping a volcano is harder than stopping a mining company from ignoring it’s responsibilities.

Re:Norway to allow mining waste to be dumped in fjords by refurb on Saturday January 13, 2024 @09:29PM (#38986842)
By that logic if there is a landslide happening at the coast, then we should marshal all available resources to stop it?
Re:Norway to allow mining waste to be dumped in fjords by Modified3019 on Sunday January 14, 2024 @04:51AM (#38989001)
Landslides because the area is already highly weathered, so the relative risks of exposing bad things is much lower.

Even then, it can sometimes result in increased pollution of drinking water sources, in which case remediation needs to happen. Given that most landslides tend to happen in poorer countries, this isn’t always the case.

Re:Norway to allow mining waste to be dumped in fjords by dragonwriter on Saturday January 13, 2024 @02:08PM (#38983390)
Rocks and dirt are aggregates of chemicals, and different kinds of rocks and dirt are made up of different chemicals.

Mining waste includes the chemicals from the ground, and chemicals used in the mining process (and chemicals produced in the interaction between the two.) Obviously, with significantly less of whatever was being mined, since the whole goal is to extract that from the first by use of the second.

Re:Norway to allow mining waste to be dumped in fjords by e12e on Saturday January 13, 2024 @03:03PM (#38983963)
Re:Norway to allow mining waste to be dumped in fjords by iancmceachern on Saturday January 13, 2024 @02:37PM (#38983684)
Sulfur, salt, mercury, arsenic, lead, are all rocks or in rocks
Re:Norway to allow mining waste to be dumped in fjords by racketcon2089 on Saturday January 13, 2024 @05:00PM (#38985040)
Imagine working with a software engineer who is not just this mentally sloppy and incapable of using a search engine, but also creates a permanent digital record of their own incompetence.
Re:Norway to allow mining waste to be dumped in fjords by Dig1t on Saturday January 13, 2024 @07:59PM (#38986362)
That was not a very nice thing to say, it was an honest question asked in good faith.
Re:Norway to allow mining waste to be dumped in fjords by racketcon2089 on Monday January 15, 2024 @12:40AM (#38997751)
What does the word honest mean, I have no choice but to post here instead of using a search engine