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Re:Wind turbines are friendlier to birds than oil-and-gas dr... by wredue on Friday January 12, 2024 @11:19AM (#38969900)
Ridiculous argument. Why on earth would people care about the birds in the context of natural processes compared to unnatural processes?

This is a monumentally stupid apples and oranges “gotcha”.

Re:Wind turbines are friendlier to birds than oil-and-gas dr... by arghwhat on Friday January 12, 2024 @11:42AM (#38970287)
Ridiculous arguments are unfortunately common, and end up being part of politics and ultimately planning and decision-making.

Natural vs. unnatural is irrelevant though. "Nature" is normally out to kill you for its own benefit and does not care if the planet or any of its lifeforms survives. What matters is our interests in preserving the world we know or improving it in our eyes, and picking the best option for that.

The option that minimizes worldwide cancer development and doesn't screw up weather systems and various biomes would be the winner in that regard.

Re:Wind turbines are friendlier to birds than oil-and-gas dr... by rootusrootus on Friday January 12, 2024 @11:58AM (#38970589)
> natural processes

I'm curious, what are you thinking of when you say 'natural processes'? I hope it's not cats.

Re:Wind turbines are friendlier to birds than oil-and-gas dr... by masklinn on Friday January 12, 2024 @12:45PM (#38971309)
Or oil spills.
Re:Wind turbines are friendlier to birds than oil-and-gas dr... by wredue on Friday January 12, 2024 @01:57PM (#38972317)
Symbiotic relationships are, in fact, a completely natural phenomena that is observed in non-human animal behaviour.
Re:Wind turbines are friendlier to birds than oil-and-gas dr... by mrguyorama on Friday January 12, 2024 @02:56PM (#38973113)
Housecats are not a symbiotic relationship. Seriously?
Re:Wind turbines are friendlier to birds than oil-and-gas dr... by wredue on Saturday January 13, 2024 @11:26AM (#38981426)
Of course they are.