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Re:UK and US strikes against Houthis under way in Yemen, say... by tptacek on Friday January 12, 2024 @02:43AM (#38965218)
You're rebutting an argument I didn't make. Not being like Russia doesn't excuse war crimes.
Re:UK and US strikes against Houthis under way in Yemen, say... by runarberg on Friday January 12, 2024 @12:03PM (#38970662)
Sorry, I’m not that good at making my argument clear.

What I’m rebutting—or rather making a poor attempt to rebut—is your hinting that the international double standard doesn’t exist, or at the very least is understandable. The interviewee in the al-Jazeera interview makes a much better argument for the existence, the importance of recognizing, and the inexcusableness of this international double standard, better than I ever could.

Re:UK and US strikes against Houthis under way in Yemen, say... by tptacek on Friday January 12, 2024 @01:15PM (#38971719)
The international double standard does not in fact exist. The two situations are not comparable. That observation does not exonerate Israel.
Re:UK and US strikes against Houthis under way in Yemen, say... by runarberg on Friday January 12, 2024 @01:20PM (#38971795)
This particular criticism is not directed at Israel, but at countries supporting Israel, such as the USA and the UK. The point is that human rights violations are enabled and even supported by third countries when Israel is the perpetrator, but not when Russia is the perpetrator.
Re:UK and US strikes against Houthis under way in Yemen, say... by tptacek on Friday January 12, 2024 @01:25PM (#38971870)
Again: the situations are not comparable. Russia was unprovoked and has a stated objective of annexing a sovereign country. Israel is in fact under military threat (was, in fact, attacked, gravely), from territory it has occupied since 1967. It is unsurprising that the international responses are not equivalent.

A short way to sum this up is: regardless of the distaste many in the west (myself included) have for the means by which Israel is pursuing it's goal, the west is unanimous in support of that actual goal: no western state believes Hamas should be left to govern Gaza, even as many probably do quietly hope to haul Netanyahu to the Hague (if the Israelis don't imprison him first).

Meanwhile: every western state actively, viscerally opposes Russia's goal.

Re:UK and US strikes against Houthis under way in Yemen, say... by runarberg on Friday January 12, 2024 @01:36PM (#38972010)
Again: When it comes to crimes against humanity, that doesn’t matter. Signatories to the Geneva convention convention are expected to uphold international humanitarian laws even when greater crimes are committed against them. The same applies to the Genocide convention. The international community is supposed to punish signatories which violate these convention, and in the case of Israel, they routinely don’t.
Re:UK and US strikes against Houthis under way in Yemen, say... by tptacek on Friday January 12, 2024 @01:51PM (#38972239)
It in fact matters a great deal, as you can see.
Re:UK and US strikes against Houthis under way in Yemen, say... by runarberg on Friday January 12, 2024 @02:05PM (#38972429)
Just to make this clear. What you are saying is that: There are some circumstances where we can expect countries to violate international humanitarian laws, and under those circumstances crimes against humanity should be unpunished, and even enabled or supported. Is this correctly understood?
Re:UK and US strikes against Houthis under way in Yemen, say... by tptacek on Friday January 12, 2024 @02:13PM (#38972526)
No, I'm saying that military aid to Ukraine and Israel are orthogonal to international criminal concerns about the way both conflicts are being prosecuted.

Everything you wrote following the word "should" was abusive. Please don't write things like that; I've done nothing to merit incivility from you.