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Re:Cloudflare lays off new hires by forward1 on Thursday January 11, 2024 @09:13PM (#38962727)
The inability for an individual to guarantee payment for necessities cannot be the fault of any company. Each capable adult must be held accountable and responsible for themselves in this world.
Re:Cloudflare lays off new hires by SamoyedFurFluff on Thursday January 11, 2024 @09:46PM (#38963016)
Nah I’m pretty comfortable blaming a company for jerking around a new hire, thereby putting their financial status and healthcare needs at risk. That’s shit behavior and deserves to be called out.
Re:Cloudflare lays off new hires by forward1 on Thursday January 11, 2024 @10:24PM (#38963277)
This petulant attitude will put you in direct opposition with how the economy objectively works, and you will likely experience disappointment in the course of your employment as a result.
Re:Cloudflare lays off new hires by SamoyedFurFluff on Thursday January 11, 2024 @11:46PM (#38963876)
The economy objectively only works that way because it’s designed to work that way, designed by people, people that should be held to their unethical behavior. The economy isn’t some mythical law of nature. It’s entirely a man made thing and I have every right to be disappointed in socially-made-up things called “corporations”!
Re:Cloudflare lays off new hires by forward1 on Thursday January 11, 2024 @11:55PM (#38963938)
That is quite the tautology indeed! Well if it pleases you, dig in your heels and howl at the moon.
Re:Cloudflare lays off new hires by SantalBlush on Thursday January 11, 2024 @09:59PM (#38963114)
Of course, even most free-market types don't belive this. After all, we collectively pay for things like national defense because it very obviously makes more economic sense than each individual trying to defend against a foreign adversary.

No, the "Each capable adult must be held accountable and responsible for themselves" is only trotted out against things a free-market ideologue doesn't like. It's a nonsense argument, and they know it.

Re:Cloudflare lays off new hires by forward1 on Thursday January 11, 2024 @10:23PM (#38963267)
You're welcome to make a counter-argument for why an individual is entitled to something in this world, and I would welcome reading it.
Re:Cloudflare lays off new hires by SantalBlush on Friday January 12, 2024 @12:08AM (#38964091)
And you're welcome to address what I just wrote, instead of trying to dictate that I use an argument you find more convenient for your position.
Re:Cloudflare lays off new hires by forward1 on Friday January 12, 2024 @12:19AM (#38964187)
Frankly, it is difficult to "address" a subjective opinion without having been given the criteria for a satisfactory answer. But I will try: being a responsible adult includes contributing to national defense.
Re:Cloudflare lays off new hires by SantalBlush on Friday January 12, 2024 @12:49AM (#38964432)
Your original statement, that "Each capable adult must be held accountable and responsible for themselves in this world," is a subjective opinion--unless you meant it merely in the sense of a truism--and you did not give me any criteria for a satisfactory "counter-argument".

Regarding this: >being a responsible adult includes contributing to national defense

you are equivocating between two separate definitions of the word "responsible." Being a responsible adult is not the same as being an adult who is responsible for their own defense or healthcare, for example. They can be correlated, but they have different meanings.

But honestly, this form of internet debating you started that derails from the topic and gets into quasi-logical nitpicking is uninteresting and makes me feel like I'm in a high school, so this will be my last comment. Please feel free to reply, and I will read it. But please make the reply have some substance.

Re:Cloudflare lays off new hires by forward1 on Friday January 12, 2024 @09:41AM (#38968521)
I believe it is you making the false equivalence.

> you did not give me any criteria for a satisfactory "counter-argument".

I had. Many times. I asked for examples of ethical businesses. None were materialized. Therefore my assertion remains unchallenged and likely true.