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Re:AMD Reveals Next-Gen Desktop Processors for Extreme PC Ga... by CivBase on Thursday January 11, 2024 @03:18PM (#38958378)
That price range might have been accurate 7 years ago, but modern graphics cards for gaming range from $300 to $1000 with the highest level pushing $2000 thanks to the AI craze. The higher prices make quality iGPUs all the more relevent - especially since the "gamer" demographic continues growing and many of the most popular games are not particularly demanding.
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Re:AMD Reveals Next-Gen Desktop Processors for Extreme PC Ga... by brucethemoose2 on Thursday January 11, 2024 @03:22PM (#38958437)
Platforms, especially AM5, are very expensive too. Ryzen 8000 is far slower than even the slowest new discrete GPU.

The real value option is buying an older platform (AM4) and a used discrete GPU, from back when prices were more sane.

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Re:AMD Reveals Next-Gen Desktop Processors for Extreme PC Ga... by snvzz on Thursday January 11, 2024 @05:55PM (#38960671)
... if electricity was free.

Power efficiency wise, a discrete GPU won't compare favorably.

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Re:AMD Reveals Next-Gen Desktop Processors for Extreme PC Ga... by aenis on Thursday January 11, 2024 @07:06PM (#38961556)
Dunno if thats true.

Assume mid range 200w gpu. Assume 20 eurocents per kWh (I live in the northern europe and pay about as much on a flexible contract). Assume a decent PSU. A year of gaming (assume, very optimistically, 365hrs) is circa 17 eur for the electricity. Considering relative perf differences, I'd say a discrete GPU compares favourably.

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Re:AMD Reveals Next-Gen Desktop Processors for Extreme PC Ga... by snvzz on Thursday January 11, 2024 @07:24PM (#38961725)
It would be more useful to compare idle power, APU vs chiplet-based CPU + discrete GPU combo.
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Re:AMD Reveals Next-Gen Desktop Processors for Extreme PC Ga... by TheCapeGreek on Friday January 12, 2024 @01:10AM (#38964556)
65W TDP for CPU + GPU in power-constrained environments, or when you want to have less battery storage requirements for renewables/backup power, is quite the boon.

I had a 5700G (I think) last year and the system would go up to 150W max. I could survive about 2-3h of no electricity with my small inverter battery setup if I kept usage minimal (no work, no gaming). Handy performance wise for a mostly work machine with some indie gaming on the side, but these 8000 series are under half that wattage.

Admittedly this isn't the most common need/concern, but it's good to know options are getting better all the time.

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