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Re:An influx of Chinese cars is terrifying the West by krasin on Thursday January 11, 2024 @01:03PM (#38956023)
Relevant thread ([1]) on vwidtalk.com, "Did you know... | Prepaid VW SW subscriptions that will expire":

> According to myVW (formerly VW Car-Net): my current subscriptions (that were prepaid by VW at time of ID4 purchase )-

> Remote Access (myVW) is a subscription that expires on 3/17/2026.

> Plus Nav (VW native navigation and traffic) is a subscription that expires on 4/23/2024.

> Plus Speech (IDTalk) is a subscription that expires on 4/23/2024.

That's exactly the point of the grandfather comment - bullshit subscriptions inside western cars are now everywhere.

1. https://www.vwidtalk.com/threads/did-you-know-prepaid-vw-sw-...

Re:An influx of Chinese cars is terrifying the West by rho138 on Sunday January 14, 2024 @02:22PM (#38993525)
I literally never use these services - except for remote access for insurance write offs - because carplay and android auto. They’re worthless featured at the end of the day.

Edit: at least my heaters and massage chairs aren’t on a subscription like BMW.