Google Cuts Jobs in Engineering and Other Divisions

Re:Google Cuts Jobs in Engineering and Other Divisions by HackerThemAll on Thursday January 11, 2024 @04:22AM (#38949776)

Pixel is not officially sold and supported in a substantial number of countries. It results in many issues, such as 5G not working when traveling from country to country. Or in case of Chromecast dongle, 5GHz Wi-Fi not working. Which makes my head explode, considering that they employ only "top talent" and has considerable resources to properly catalogue and implement all radio frequencies of the world.

Google cannot release any product worldwide. Their knowledge doesn't go too far beyond US market. You can call it Americentrism or just lack of competence of the ones in charge.

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Re:Google Cuts Jobs in Engineering and Other Divisions by lawgimenez on Thursday January 11, 2024 @06:52AM (#38951032)

I have been waiting my whole career to get a hold of their previous Nexus line. Then their Pixel line. Still no luck. It has been over a decade. Now it’s too late my whole family is now deeply invested in Apple’s ecosystem.

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Re:Google Cuts Jobs in Engineering and Other Divisions by wayfinder on Thursday January 11, 2024 @04:52AM (#38950026)

Google is good at making algorithms and tech but product development and long term vision have never been its strong points.

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Re:Google Cuts Jobs in Engineering and Other Divisions by freetinker on Thursday January 11, 2024 @05:11AM (#38950181)

Institutionally, Google has the attention span of a Goldfish. Apple will continue to entrench their position as a leader in edge computing. Apple deserve their success; I hope they don’t get complacent once the Pixel division implodes.

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Re:Google Cuts Jobs in Engineering and Other Divisions by herval on Thursday January 11, 2024 @05:37AM (#38950392)

Was Pixel ever a big player in the Android market? I get the feeling Xiaomi and Samsung are the actual competitors Apple cares about

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Re:Google Cuts Jobs in Engineering and Other Divisions by mapcars on Thursday January 11, 2024 @06:37AM (#38950893)

Even if technically Apple is capable their predatory business models will never make me consider any of their products worth it.

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Re:Google Cuts Jobs in Engineering and Other Divisions by freetinker on Thursday January 11, 2024 @03:41PM (#38958732)

Fair point perhaps, but they seem like the only game in town that seem to care about their customers. They’re far from perfect, but to me they are better than the rest. I really want Apple to feel some heat and have worthy competitors, but I just don’t see that.

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Re:Google Cuts Jobs in Engineering and Other Divisions by hajile on Thursday January 11, 2024 @05:08PM (#38960022)

Is it predatory?

Apple must turn a profit somewhere and charging a bit more to their high-end customers to give a bit more of a break to their low-end customers isn't a terrible method.

If you hate Apple's pricing, you have WAY more companies to hate on first.

Apple has a gross margin of 44%.

Amazon has gross margin of 46%

AMD has a gross margin of 47%

IBM has a gross margin of 54%.

Microsoft has a gross margin of 71%.

Oracle has a gross margin of 72%

Nvidia has a gross margin of 74%.

Meta has a gross margin of 78%

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Re:Google Cuts Jobs in Engineering and Other Divisions by pasttense01 on Thursday January 11, 2024 @08:01PM (#38962093)

"Amazon has gross margin of 46%"

Reference please? Amazon has massive retail sales and it's not even making a profit on this much of the time--and the rest of the time it's low.

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Re:Google Cuts Jobs in Engineering and Other Divisions by hajile on Friday January 12, 2024 @09:35AM (#38968421)

I just considered the top Google hits for some big tech companies.

This particular one is from this site.

https://finbox.com/NASDAQGS:AMZN/explorer/gp_margin/

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Re:Google Cuts Jobs in Engineering and Other Divisions by DonnyV on Friday January 12, 2024 @08:57AM (#38967966)

You need to add references for all these numbers. I find it hard to believe Microsoft has a gross margin of 71%.

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Re:Google Cuts Jobs in Engineering and Other Divisions by hajile on Friday January 12, 2024 @09:33AM (#38968396)

I literally just looked at the Google default results. In this case, here's your source.

Those margins plus the AI bubble are why MS stock prices are so high.

https://ycharts.com/companies/MSFT/gross_profit_margin

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Re:Google Cuts Jobs in Engineering and Other Divisions by abattleofwords on Saturday January 13, 2024 @02:36PM (#38983675)

This is misleading. Gross margin excludes operating expenses and taxes. Net margin or operating margin is more meaningful. Here's now the operating margins stack up for Q3 2023

Nvidia 57.5% https://www.nasdaq.com/market-activity/stocks/nvda/financial...

Microsoft 47.6% https://www.nasdaq.com/market-activity/stocks/msft/financial...

Meta 40.2% https://www.nasdaq.com/market-activity/stocks/meta/financial...

Apple 30.1% https://www.nasdaq.com/market-activity/stocks/aapl/financial...

Google 27.8% https://www.nasdaq.com/market-activity/stocks/goog/financial...

IBM 14% https://www.nasdaq.com/market-activity/stocks/ibm/financials

Amazon 7.8% https://www.nasdaq.com/market-activity/stocks/amzn/financial...

AMD 3.8% https://www.nasdaq.com/market-activity/stocks/amd/financials

Apple is still extremely profitable for a company that primarily makes and sells hardware. Nvidia has a higher margin but that's because of the AI boom.

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Re:Google Cuts Jobs in Engineering and Other Divisions by dustingetz on Thursday January 11, 2024 @03:28PM (#38958524)

top down coordination doesn’t scale to $2T companies, at some point you’re basically a government

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Re:Google Cuts Jobs in Engineering and Other Divisions by JetSpiegel on Thursday January 11, 2024 @10:10PM (#38963188)

Bot one stuck in feudalism, with a king and fiefs distributed in smoke-filled rooms, or golf fames.

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Re:Google Cuts Jobs in Engineering and Other Divisions by dartharva on Saturday January 13, 2024 @09:20AM (#38980129)

Honestly, I don't see anything that a phone manufacturer _requires_ to localise apart from frequency bands. How is Apple managing to sell iPhones with literally no other localisation?

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