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Re:Spot Bitcoin ETF receives official approval from the SEC by qualifiedai on Wednesday January 10, 2024 @10:32PM (#38947183)
Millions are involved precisely because of the appeal of get rich fast and ponzi schemes.

Tens of thousands are invoved because of its technological promise and appeal which you've described.

This imbalance is the main problem crypto industry needs to solve before it truly reaches its potential.

Re:Spot Bitcoin ETF receives official approval from the SEC by david_shi on Wednesday January 10, 2024 @10:41PM (#38947256)
This is definitely true in the West.

I said millions because of every day crypto usage in countries like Argentina and Turkey, where inflation makes it challenging to save money, and in countries where there are high remittance rates.

More builders are definitely needed to improve the crypto user experience across a range of categories.

Re:Spot Bitcoin ETF receives official approval from the SEC by chemicalnovae on Thursday January 11, 2024 @12:21AM (#38948055)
Isn't crypto used in these places simply a more convenient form on pinning to the USD than due to any inherent properties of the crypto itself?
Re:Spot Bitcoin ETF receives official approval from the SEC by solumunus on Thursday January 11, 2024 @01:26AM (#38948525)
Convenience is a property.
Re:Spot Bitcoin ETF receives official approval from the SEC by democracy on Thursday January 11, 2024 @12:20AM (#38948045)
...another fairytale about people in poor countries using crypto ))))

Nothing beats good old USD or EURO as an asset if you live in a country with hyperinflation.

Re:Spot Bitcoin ETF receives official approval from the SEC by kragen on Thursday January 11, 2024 @12:34AM (#38948166)
i trade bitcoin with other people here in argentina several times a year; it's by far the easiest and safest way to send money either into or out of the country, and it's widely used by money changers

remember that this is a country where the police take dollar-bill-sniffing dogs onto river ferryboats to prevent people from taking usd or eur across the river to their bank in uruguay

someone in a [dead] comment said, 'The most traded crypto assets in Argentina, by far, are dollar-pegged crypto-currencies.' this is absolutely correct, and from my point of view it's a total plague. also virtually everybody has their bitcoins in binance. but most of those people will still buy and sell bitcoin if that's what you want

Re:Spot Bitcoin ETF receives official approval from the SEC by david_shi on Thursday January 11, 2024 @12:24AM (#38948088)
USD and Euro are great assets to hold if you have the ability to access banking services that support them, which isn't universal.

Are you questioning the data?

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1202468/global-cryptocur...

Re:Spot Bitcoin ETF receives official approval from the SEC by lottin on Thursday January 11, 2024 @12:50AM (#38948275)
"The data" that you link to doesn't support your assertion that people in third world countries use bitcoin to protect themselves from hyperinflation.

Also USD and Euro are NOT great assets to hold. People only hold cash because they need it for transactions purposes.

Re:Spot Bitcoin ETF receives official approval from the SEC by democracy on Thursday January 11, 2024 @07:12AM (#38951196)
It is the best asset to hold if you local currency goes -5% every day. Easy to buy (officially and not), easy to liquidate, can be used as unofficial currency for trade
Re:Spot Bitcoin ETF receives official approval from the SEC by lottin on Thursday January 11, 2024 @11:27AM (#38954415)
Not by any stretch of the imagination. A highly volatile asset isn't suitable for storing value reliably. This is because the chances of you having to liquidate your position at a loss are very high.
Re:Spot Bitcoin ETF receives official approval from the SEC by democracy on Thursday January 11, 2024 @05:56PM (#38960688)
personal experience?
Re:Spot Bitcoin ETF receives official approval from the SEC by lottin on Friday January 12, 2024 @12:59AM (#38964501)
No, I have a background in finance.
Re:Spot Bitcoin ETF receives official approval from the SEC by democracy on Friday January 12, 2024 @08:33AM (#38967709)
Ok, and you are wrong
Re:Spot Bitcoin ETF receives official approval from the SEC by lottin on Saturday January 13, 2024 @04:36AM (#38978451)
That's a very convincing argument.
Re:Spot Bitcoin ETF receives official approval from the SEC by democracy on Thursday January 11, 2024 @07:11AM (#38951189)
sometimes your "forex banking services" are dodgy people on the street - that's how late USSR functioned...
Re:Spot Bitcoin ETF receives official approval from the SEC by toenail on Thursday January 11, 2024 @12:23AM (#38948076)
Did the USD or EURO gain +7000% in the last decade? Didn't think so.
Re:Spot Bitcoin ETF receives official approval from the SEC by lottin on Thursday January 11, 2024 @01:03AM (#38948366)
If it did, your salary must have shrunk by 87.5% (or the company that you work for would have gone out of business).
Re:Spot Bitcoin ETF receives official approval from the SEC by toenail on Thursday January 11, 2024 @01:15AM (#38948451)
Because in reality all salaries went up exactly the right amount to compensate for inflation? Hm, the system doesn't seem to work like that.
Re:Spot Bitcoin ETF receives official approval from the SEC by lottin on Thursday January 11, 2024 @01:55PM (#38956927)
If you think that a business can remain in business after its revenue shrinks by a factor of 8 without wage costs adjusting accordingly, you need a reality check.