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Re:DMARC required by Gmail and Yahoo from Feb 2024 by stubish on Wednesday January 10, 2024 @01:00AM (#38936762)
Kicking off a chain of emails a user cannot easily opt out of could well be the sort of emails users want to lose. There probably should be a one-click 'stop emailing me' button, for this and future purchases. Which would be a support burden, yes.
Re:DMARC required by Gmail and Yahoo from Feb 2024 by behringer on Wednesday January 10, 2024 @01:33AM (#38936971)
I watch for the subject line. I don't actually care what the content says...
Re:DMARC required by Gmail and Yahoo from Feb 2024 by Wicher on Wednesday January 10, 2024 @05:37AM (#38938679)
So... let's assume many users do this, and let's assume Google factors in the opening rate into the transactional-email-likeness score, and that transactional-email-senders become widely aware of this...

Then senders' incentive will become to make the subject line into clickbait for the content, so that you'll open the message. So instead of subjects like "Order placed", "Order paid", "Order shipped", "Order out for delivery" you'll get uniform subjects along the lines of "IMPORTANT UPDATE TO YOUR ORDER". You will lose efficiency getting through your emails, and over time the metric will lose its indicativeness. Everybody loses.

Re:DMARC required by Gmail and Yahoo from Feb 2024 by plg94 on Wednesday January 10, 2024 @09:48AM (#38939478)
Some of these emails are legally required for online shops. Doesn't matter if the user wants to receive them or not, they _have to_ be sent and actually delivered to the user's inbox.
Re:DMARC required by Gmail and Yahoo from Feb 2024 by persolb on Wednesday January 10, 2024 @07:56PM (#38945931)
I'm not sure how the 'actually delivered' would be enforced. Does Google have an affirmative requirement to deliver a 3rd parties message? I hope not.

My gmail address received 35 emails yesterday (which didn't get spam filtered). All but 3 of those got auto-archived by the filters I have in gmail. I would love google to just do this automatically.

Practically I might need another message or two a week that didn't hit my inbox.... but that's fine as long as it's as it is still searchable.

Re:DMARC required by Gmail and Yahoo from Feb 2024 by blowski on Wednesday January 10, 2024 @12:18PM (#38940834)
We’ve received your order … we’ve taken payment for your order … your order has left our warehouse … your order has arrived in another warehouse … your order is with a delivery driver … all for a $5 cable.