Re:Ex-Google CEO Eric Schmidt Is Working on a Secret Militar...
by rainworld on Tuesday January 09, 2024 @06:48PM
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5000 MBTs
3x the Oryx count lol. And Ruzzia is still in the fight! Total vindication of the Soviet approach.
First Ukies were great and NATO gear was great. Then the tracks met the dirt. Now Ukies are undertrained and NATO gear is held wrongly. Can’t wait for what happens next.
it's just not as survivable
Even if it were true, having somewhat more lightly scorched tank crews sitting around isn’t going to save Ukraine.
Re:Ex-Google CEO Eric Schmidt Is Working on a Secret Militar...
by paganel on Wednesday January 10, 2024 @04:40AM
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No use, because it's complicated when propaganda-influenced talk is taking over talk based on the direct experience of real war, this is why I made my initial comment that both the Russians and the Ukrainians are now more experienced and can produce better drone-related materiel than the Western armies, but then someone responded with some propaganda piece about those funny cardboard-made drones (which never saw real combat).
It's less funny and more tragic that the Ukrainian soldiers themselves have come out and said that this type of discourse ("Western weapons are the best! Russians weapons are the worse!") does not help them at all on the front-lines, to the contrary, it makes them a lot more vulnerable and with bigger chances to, well, die.
You have to remember that Ukraine was provided with this gear with minimal training. It's easy to pick out small issues, (yes the Panzerhaubitze is a bit of a sensitive system to operate), but the majority of NATO gear provides better protection, and is more effective assuming the equipment is supported and maintained properly.
Russian gear is tough, can survive a lot of misuse and lack of maintenance. But compared to NATO gear, it's just not as survivable.