Re:Defending against hypothetical moon life during Apollo 11
by peyton on Monday January 08, 2024 @04:01AM
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> the most reasonable prior "astronauts pick something up that then returns with them intact and is able to survive in highly oxidizing atmosphere" should be near zero
The Soviets had active bioweapons and espionage programs. In a MAD world and with geopolitical dominance at stake, it’s not unreasonable to take precautions against something planted in the lunar module.
Given the demonstrated capabilities and incentives of the actors involved vs. hypothetical AI manifestations, I think it’s way more reasonable to consider moon bugs the greater threat.
With AI, those probabilities are all flipped on their heads. The reason we know of some of the risks, e.g. the risk of deep fakes being used as tools for fraud, is because they have already happened. That one single scenario alone having already come to fruition takes whatever anyone should have for a prior probability of said risk and shoots it straight up to 100%. And, that alone is a key difference between AI today and lunar or terrestrial contamination by alien life in the 1960s.
Let us not also forget that there are many, many other risk scenarios than deepfakes being used for fraudulent purposes. Much as I hate to reference Rumsfeld on this, there truly are "unknown unknowns" here, and we have to take that seriously. And then there are the middle ground scenarios, such as the possibility of severe and lasting economic disruption, to the point where capitalism might not be able to function as it has for the past several centuries. I truly don't believe that any foreseeable "internal" risk[0] could cause capitalism to completely stop working forever, unless we just run out of stuff to dig up out of the dirt, but AI certainly could cause multiple decades of disruption, which would be nearly as bad for most people alive today.
I'm gonna cut myself off there, because I think this is getting a little ponderous, but also because I think my point is made now: biotic contamination, whether forward or reverse, involved a sum of a lot of hypotheticals with very low probabilities, whereas AI risk involves a sum of some certainties, a few potential (though perhaps low probability) existential risks, and also an indeterminate number of unknown risks of unknown probability. It seems pretty clear once you crunch it all out that AI is certainly the greater threat.
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[0] Mmeaning one that originates within capitalism itself, like AI, rather than one that originates outside of capitalism, but puts pressure on the system, like climate change..