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Re:True Name – Mastercard by alistairSH on Sunday January 07, 2024 @11:58AM (#38902829)
American banking (including point-of-sale and credit cards) is largely a decade behind Western Europe.

But, apart from restaurants (which continue to inexplicably swipe cards out of sight), most major retailers use chip/pin or chip/signature (and the sig is only ever checked if the salesperson feels a need, which is rare).

Re:True Name – Mastercard by andix on Sunday January 07, 2024 @12:03PM (#38902894)
"swiping" in context of using the magnetic strip on the card? Most European cards have this kind of payment disabled by default.

But how do you enter the PIN in those cases? We used to have the option to authorize payments with signature until a few years ago. But I think those cards completely vanished now.

Re:True Name – Mastercard by alistairSH on Sunday January 07, 2024 @01:00PM (#38903410)
At restaurants, they usually swipe and then bring you a receipt to sign. Yes, we still have the magnetic strip enabled.

Most retailers it’s tap/RFID or chip read, but I still run into old POS hardware that requires a mag swipe (not often - I think Visa charges the merchant more for these transactions).

EDIT - I much prefer chip/PIN and wish it were the default here. And wish all US cards had a PIN (some don’t, and those that support it usually need it enabled explicitly). This causes problems in Europe with unmanned terminals (gas stations after hours, train ticket self-service).

Re:True Name – Mastercard by andix on Sunday January 07, 2024 @01:22PM (#38903657)
> This causes problems in Europe with unmanned terminals (gas stations after hours, train ticket self-service).

I think you should be safe with a NFC enabled card for now. Apple Pay for example works in most places in my experience (even all around the world, except US). Physical cards might have a limit for contactless payment somewhere between 20-100€. And not all devices have a pin pad to enter the required pin then.

Re:True Name – Mastercard by alistairSH on Sunday January 07, 2024 @07:44PM (#38906869)
The problem I had in the UK was unmanned gas stations (at night). My main card apparently didn’t support a PIN at the time (2018?). So filling up at night was problematic (had to use my ATM card which did have a PIN). I ran into something similar in Italy in 2017 at the Florence train station - self-service terminal wanted a PIN.
Re:True Name – Mastercard by andix on Wednesday January 10, 2024 @12:39PM (#38941035)
Yes, if your card doesn't have a pin, then it's probably not usable on unmanned terminals. But this is kind of by design, isn't it? Like those NFC credit card stickers, that can only be used on NFC terminals, because they aren't a smart card and don't have a magstripe.

I think the operators could still charge the card without a PIN, but the card owner could dispute the charge and just get the money back. That's why they don't accept it, they want to get paid, and not give away free gas.

Re:True Name – Mastercard by snotrockets on Sunday January 07, 2024 @01:16PM (#38903588)
The majority of EMV credit cards from American banks are chip+signature, not chip+pin.
Re:True Name – Mastercard by andix on Sunday January 07, 2024 @01:29PM (#38903733)
I had issues with a chip+signature card already 10 years ago in London. Some bars just didn’t accept it. Probably because they were too lazy to archive the receipts (signing CC transactions on a screen like in the US was never a thing in Europe).