The New York Times Launches a Strong Case Against Microsoft and OpenAI

Re:The New York Times Launches a Strong Case Against Microso... by paxys on Sunday January 07, 2024 @10:03AM (#38901748)

Quoting isn't the problem here. There's already vast precedent for allowing it as fair use, even when generated by computer systems. The issue is that ChatGPT reproduces entire articles verbatim.

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Re:The New York Times Launches a Strong Case Against Microso... by megaman821 on Sunday January 07, 2024 @10:33AM (#38902027)

Only in very contrived circumstances. It is not like you ask ChatGPT for the news and you get a NYT article. They gave ChatGPT a link to the article and the first few paragraphs, and then told it to complete the article.

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Re:The New York Times Launches a Strong Case Against Microso... by js8 on Sunday January 07, 2024 @10:08AM (#38901785)

But if it produces the whole article verbatim, it should be relatively straightforward to match its output to the training set and give attribution, no?

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Re:The New York Times Launches a Strong Case Against Microso... by paxys on Sunday January 07, 2024 @10:10AM (#38901810)

If you copy every NYT article and publish them on your own site, writing "this is from the NYT" under it doesn't make it legal.

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Re:The New York Times Launches a Strong Case Against Microso... by js8 on Sunday January 07, 2024 @10:25AM (#38901949)

Doesn't make legal what? Copying or publishing the articles? The model output could as easily be modified to output link to the article instead of quoting it verbatim.

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Re:The New York Times Launches a Strong Case Against Microso... by paxys on Sunday January 07, 2024 @02:16PM (#38904213)

Okay and if ChatGPT did that then NYT wouldn't have a case. Except that's now how it works.

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