This latest debacle is obviously due to some schlub on the factory floor who was more interested in checking his Facebook than installing bolts. Guillotining the CEO won't help.

I wish I knew what would, believe me. I have to deal with the exact same problem, luckily in a factory where there is a lot less at stake.

I’m not advocating for guillotining anyone. That’s absurd. But the buck stops with the CEO. If there are “schlubs” on the factory floor at Boeing that’s a problem the CEO needs to solve.

Then perhaps you meant to reply to a different subthread. I'm merely addressing the upstream poster's childish argument. ("Let the guillotine come out, I want to see heads roll.")

You did so by (as I understand) suggesting the status quo attracts competent leadership. I offered an argument that it does not. I agree we do not need to bring out guillotines. I disagree that Boeing has competent leadership. This is how Internet conversations work.

Oh, I definitely don't maintain that they have competent leadership, and clearly the status quo isn't ideal for attracting and retaining it. The board is clearly negligent.

I just disagree with some proposed solutions in the thread, that's all. Also don't necessarily agree that the situation was any better in the past.