Re:Meta-analysis: On average undergraduate students intellig...
by mp05 on Friday January 05, 2024 @11:10AM
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Yeah well, plumbing is hard work that you couldn't pay me enough to do as a career. God bless tradespeople.
Re:Meta-analysis: On average undergraduate students intellig...
by keenmaster on Friday January 05, 2024 @11:24AM
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“average lawyer in France or Italy will never make the money of the average plumber”
My disbelief requires more suspension than the Golden Gate Bridge. Most reputable sources will disprove this. Also, it’s not a given that the bottom 30% of lawyers (who pull down the average) would be good plumbers - I have a hard time imagining a worse population to pull from to work with their hands on piping and lug around tools in their pickup truck.
I think these “facts” come from blue collar cosplaying. A survey asking “On a scale of 0-100, how much do you want to be a plumber?” would have a disproportionately massive mode at 0.
Re:Meta-analysis: On average undergraduate students intellig...
by ksplicer on Friday January 05, 2024 @11:19AM
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Plumbers can make a significant amount, but it's not that easy to get into either. How many students go to tradeschool and then can't find a position where they want to live?
Re:Meta-analysis: On average undergraduate students intellig...
by linuxftw on Friday January 05, 2024 @11:24AM
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Plumbers? Pretty much find work anywhere, at least in the US. Developing nations probably a different story. Large plumbing companies will hire people with no experience, trade school not required.
Other trades don't pay enough for the hassle.
And actually in large parts of the world, trade schools pay much better indeed.
Reality is that while our society got much more educated the ratio of blue vs white collars hasn't shifted significantly in many decades in most of the world.
Now we find the reality when we need our car adjusted or a plumber at home and we find that the hourly rate is insanely higher than that of an average college graduate.
But I guess on HN where most people have STEM degrees and have found great jobs indeed with their education this does not resonate.
But an average lawyer in France or Italy will never make the money of the average plumber (but stats show that a bit less because those trades often avoid paying taxes entirely) till late in his career (at which point the plumber has built more wealth).