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Re:Origins of J by bigbillheck on Thursday January 04, 2024 @04:39PM (#38872635)
> Most beginners no longer want

Most beginners never wanted that.

Re:Origins of J by kelas on Thursday January 04, 2024 @06:26PM (#38873684)
guys, my two pennies: most beginners have no idea what they want.

what we know is that what they do not want is to produce more ugly endless code into the world - we’ve produced enough of that before they learned how to locate their asse(t)s.

Re:Origins of J by RyanHamilton on Friday January 05, 2024 @04:30AM (#38877249)
You are correct. I guess it's more accurate to say, most beginners are no longer forced to learn step by step from a book. Now they ask google/SO/chatGPT and use that if it works with a few tweaks. Kdb+ has very few core concepts, most of which since they are symbols are hard to google.